What am I?

 

....and where would I be shown? (well in south queensland anyway)

A variegated dominant Pied Spangle (unless she has no iris rings coming).

Wouldn't she be shown in the pied category???

Pied Spangle (Recessive ?). Because Pieds are lower on the matrix she would be shown as a Pied, not as a spangle

Very interesting replies. Any other thoughts?

I would have said recessive pied spangle but I have a feeling it is somthing more confusing.

Its got a lot of green on its rump, I definitly think its a pied of some sort. Taking a guess and saying banded pied.

Looks like a dominant pied spangle to me, but it looks to have more wing markings than one would normally expect. Although it also looks like it could be a heavily suffused recessive pied.

Don't pied's have a spot somewhere? Regardless a lovely little girl. I bet "eagle" would love her!

Still very interesting....

do you have a full picture of her back without you holding her?

Elly, it cold out side now... I'll take a photo in the morning.

okay...lol warm here lol, opposite season I forget plus it is night for you too.

A recessive pied spangle or perhaps something really rare like a mottled spangle

Well to be more sure of a mottled pied, Daz, what did this hen look like when she was a baby? Did she look like a normal baby or was she always like this?

okay it's a Recessive Pied Spangle.

 

Sire was a Recessive Pied and the dam was a Spangle Split Recessive Pied.

 

Now what class can I show this under.

 

Here is the Australian Standard to help you.

Look it up in the matrix.

Oh Daz, I was enjoying the mystery of her mutation.

Elly I'll give you a clue. Look at the beak of any bird (budgie) If it is orange. It is a recessive variety. In particular carring recessive pied.

 

I used to also take note of the feet but there are some normals with pink feet starting to appear on the bench.

Yep, I have heard and I agreed with the others above, I just wanted to see the back of the bird for another reason and Neville threw in that thinker about mottled pieds .

good pied for that old daz

...a bit small shannon. I like a bit more length, shoulder and width of cere.But she would be good for breeding.

...a bit small shannon. I like a bit more length, shoulder and width of cere.But she would be good for breeding.

 

Standard calls for 10-20% markings for rec pied. This girl is very heavily marked maybe 80%. Do you find that in rec pieds hens tend towards heavier markings than cock birds?

I keep the heavily marked Hens for breeding. They still throw clean offspring. I had hopes on a light green cock that is 09 bred but he's looking like a B59 bomber.

 

I'll try to get some photos.

 

Speaking with Alister in Burnie.. the gene seems spasmatic in the marking areas. So you need to look past it and look at the bird. Take the bird in it's form and not the standard (eg markings) to breed with.

According to my standard, you can show her as recessive pied as spangle is included in the accepted varieties.

Edited June 9, 200915 yr by **Liv**

Yes she is to be shown only in the Recessive pied class.