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Another Confusing Cere!

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A little hard to tell with those pics, but I'll have a stab....

 

1. Female

2. Male

i can 100% guarantee the top one is a hen due to the white, as for the second picture, im preety sure its a hen to,

I think both hens. The second is a bit hard to tell, but I think it looks more tan/flesh than pink.

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