Posted May 22, 200915 yr I just sent an email to my real estate asking if we could get a second budgie. The wheels are in motion! Hope it doesn't take as long as last time :hap: but we are with different people now who don't have stupid rules like not being able to replace him if he dies so I think the response will be a bit quicker this time. I can't see why they'd say no since they have already let us have one and we can tell the previous people had several budgies here (they had not cleaned the feathers off the fly screen :rofl: )
May 22, 200915 yr i cant see a real estate saying no to a budgie, if they do, then they are stuck up! i rent a house to and the owner said no full on pets, and yet i got 1 dog, cat, 2 bearded dragons, 4 fish, 22 budgies, 6 cockatiels, 4 grassparrots, 4 quail, 1 rainow lorikeet(extremely noise) and 1 galah who is just as noisy so im taking a risk :rofl: :hap: Edited May 22, 200915 yr by mattdog2
May 22, 200915 yr good for you for following the rules and asking, we used to be landlords and the worse thing is having to kick somone out because they didn't follow the rules, fingers crossed.
May 22, 200915 yr Agree with Elly 100%. I'm also a renter and it annoys me how my neighbour has a cat, but when I did the right thing and asked, I was not permitted!! So not fair. It's people who disobey the rules that spoilt it for everyone else!!! Good luck with your request and I hope it is good news and soon!
May 23, 200915 yr Author Well we're in a townhouse complex so it's understandable why they'd be particular about pets. But they happily let us have Cosmo in the first place so I don't see how they could say no to a second. I'll keep you posted
May 23, 200915 yr I'm sure you'll be fine. I decided to get rid of my two. I had them inside since they hatched, but as they got older they got louder. I had been sick and wasn't able to give them the time out and attention they needed, and they turned to screaching a lot!!! I know it annoyed me, so I could only imagine how my neighbours felt. The best decision for them and me was to take them home to the aviary. It has worked out wonderfully. They are happily flying around with my flock and their sister, and I now have a quiet unit!!! I know the neighbours didn't complain, but I didn't want to give them a reason.
May 23, 200915 yr 2 budgies are definitely louder then 1 by 100% they have someone to chat with all day long and birds are rarely quiet except for those few hours in the afternoon and during the night, I could see that would be the only reason why they would say no, budgies tend to be loudest in the morning and early evening.
May 24, 200915 yr Author Well when our house is all closed up you can't hear Cosmo from outside. Only if we have all the doors and windows open, and even then it's not problematic. I don't think anyone else would be bothered by the noise at all, there are lots of outside birds that are noisier. I'm not sure about the neighbours we share a wall with though- what they can hear through the wall. We don't hear any of their general day to day noise (like talking, cooking, TV, general daily activity) so I don't think bird noise would go through the wall either. We do hear a LOT of guitar hero coming through at all hours of the night though and they have very large speakers and play loud music on weekends. So I don't think they really have a right to complain about bird noise!
May 24, 200915 yr keep us updated on what they say , have you decided where you will go to get your 2nd budgie?
May 25, 200915 yr Author I had one person on here PM me in response to my question a few months back on breeders of pet types in Brisbane so that sounds promising. If that doesn't work out I'll contact the local budgie club for a breeder
May 29, 200915 yr Author Update: We got permission! Well, at least I think we did.... basically she said "the owner says it is okay as long as it is okay with body corporate" Strange, because they never said that about Cosmo in the first place. So if body corp doesn't allow it then wouldn't that mean we'd lose both? But she never said anything like "so I will send a request to body corporate" or "so you have to ask body corporate" - so maybe nothing will be done with going through them. I think I can interpret this as it being okay to go ahead though, since it was apparently okay the first time, and since the body corp here seems fairly unofficial, and the real estate isn't initiating anything. There is a new form we have to fill out- a pet agreement- which we didn't have to do the first time either. Oh well. It's all pretty standard. It does have the "this doesn't cover the replacement of a pet" thing too though like my old place Funny how they seem to be coming down harder on a second one than a first one. But... that's okay.
May 29, 200915 yr Having been involved with Body Corps for the last 10 years what you need to do is ask the real estate who is the head of the body corp, hopefully it is someone who lives there (and if it is a small informal one it most likey will be owner oucpier) if it is just go knock on their door and say that your land lord has said you can keep Budgies (don't tell them you are expaning your flock) but they asked that you inform the body corp. 9 times out of 10 they will say that is fine. A Body Corp (in Vic anyway) can't ban pets but they can install a 3 complaints and you are out rule. As long as your land lord is fine with it then the Body Corp can't so anything (trust me I have run three Body Corps and I made DAM sure I run the one here as I keep the meeting away from my 100 odd birds ) Hopefully it will go like this You - Hi BC - Hi You - I rent number X and my landlord has said that i can keep my Budgies but I just have to let the Body Corp know and make sure you are aware that I have them possible answers BC - Oh that fine OR BC - How many do you have? you - oh only two BC - thats fine OR BC - That's fine but you have to be aware of these rules X, Y & Z Never sound like you are asking for permisson and never act like he/she has a say in the matter because at the end of the day they do not untill there is a complaint
May 30, 200915 yr Author Thanks AV The strange thing is that they must have slipped Cosmo in somehow in the first place without following the rules, and told us it was okay. Basically, I think the real estate forgot that we put him on our application, and then when we were signing the lease and it said no pets, I said "What about our budgie?" and she said "oh yeah that is fine" But we never had to sign a pet agreement or ask body corporate so we must have had him without being meant to, but we were told it was okay so assumed it was. So I guess the way I see it now is that if I have to ask body corp, I'm going to have to explain that the real estate said we could have one and we assumed it had been cleared with them and it probably hadn't. Which is a bit messy, and in a way it's not even really our problem since the real estate told us it was totally fine, we didn't do anything against instructions. Now we have to sign a pet agreement, and it has all these stupid rules, including one saying that birds are not to be allowed out of their cages But since we didn't even have that agreement with Cosmo, we have been letting him out of his cage all along without knowing that we weren't "allowed" to. So any damages that may be done, we could just say that it happened before the agreement came in. They made a mistake I think, so they don't really have a leg to stand on if anything happens. I don't intend on lying to them or anything though, I will continue to be honest, but I just hope that since they've probably let something slip by that they shouldn't have, that they now decide not to make a big deal about our birds to avoid themselves getting in trouble! I honestly don't think there will be any problems though. There is SO much bird noise here from nature already, and we do take great care of our property and also take responsibility for things. Anyway... I know who the head of the body corporate is. On some days he bends over backwards to help everyone, and on other days he's quite aggro. So I might wait until a good opportunity comes up to discuss this with him, and it should be fine. I know he has fish himself but I will talk to him and I guess then it will all be above board from then on.
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