I have two budgies. One is the standard yellow head with green body and black markings on feathers. The other is a white with a very faded light yellow/green and grey on the body/feathers, and black eyes. There is aboslutely no white ring around the eyes. It mostly looks white and grey. I will refer to them as green and white.

 

Green is very quiet and boring, sits on the perch a lot, doesn't move too much, rarely sings. Will follow white, but not too much activity. usually stays in the same spot all day

 

White sings and play. White does acrobatics on the toys, plays with any toy I bring it. Squeezes through the ring toys, squawks loudly, boldly climbs up and down on the cage bars, flys back and forth and plays, chirps, squawks and squawks all day while green just sits and watches. White never sits still.

 

Occassionally white will take little cautious steps towards green and suddenly try to bite it. Green watches with beak open and lashes out if white gets to close. White will fly down to a lower perch then come back and do it again. Over and over again. He harrasses poor green to no end. The ocassionally they lock beaks (feeding I guess) then green will lash out at white as if to say get lost. If I put food in the cage, they both sit and look at it, but white is interested and will eventually get closer and closer until it can eat. Once eating, green will participate. If I give them fruit, they huddle as far away from it as they can, as if it is poison. I have had these birds since January 09. They must be about 6 - 8 months old. I cant tell if they're male or female. Both ceres look the same, a greyish very very slight pink. But greens cere is more flat and white in color while white's is more protruding and rounded around the nostrils, very pink with a bluish tinge. Is white insane. Is it possible he is courting green who is a male and wants nothing to do with him? But is it maybe a possible white is a female?

 

Every day since I had them I sit and talk to them throughout the cage. If I put my finger up to the cage they run and huddle to the furthest side of the cage,scared and breathing hard as if a cat is after them. If I put my hand in the cage all *** breaks loose and they fly frantically trying to get away. I have been trying to finger tame them for 4 months now but no luck. I cant get near them at all. Other than that, white is happy and noisy in the cage. If I let them loose they fly frantically trying to get as far away from me as possible. Even if I sit still for an hour. I have thought about letting them loose, picking them up with a towel and just talking to them repeatedly. Will this help?

I am inserting a few pictures. It is hard to get them to stay still. I notice the camera enhances the blue and makes the ceres look like they have a blue tinge when they dont.

They both look like hens to me.

Green is a hen for sure, but white could be a cock... but looks more like a hen in those pics.

Edited May 21, 200915 yr by **Liv**

What do you try fingertaming them with. please tell me and i will tell you how to do fingertame them.

The recessive pied looks like a male too me and I agree the other is a hen.

I agree, the Recessive Pied is male and the Opaline (green) is a girl. Very pretty birds.

As for taming we have a section dedicated to that if you want to ask your questions there and also in the FAQ section there is an article called Taming Your Budgie .

the opaline hen is 100% hen, as for the recessive pied, he's definitly a male, i have a grey single factor dominant pied cock who had the exact same cere coloration as the recessive pied you have, and he turned out to be a strong blue cere, so its a male

Edited May 22, 200915 yr by mattdog2

I agree with Elly on the sex's of the Budgies...

If the ceres on both have white as they show in the photos then they are both females.

The recessive pied is also opaline.

Edited May 22, 200915 yr by KAZ

Hmmm... ... What will they be...

I'm going with them both being hens...

If the ceres on both have white as they show in the photos then they are both females.

The recessive pied is also opaline.

 

Where do you see the opaline in the rec. pied? Asking because I want to see it too

If you get a better shot of the cere of the recessive pied without a flash that could probably help clear things up, a close up, no flash, on macro setting. He looks like he may have been through 1 molt (how old is the bird?) and that is why I am saying male because the cere would be more brown by now I would think and it still looks pretty pink.

What do you try fingertaming them with. please tell me and i will tell you how to do fingertame them.

Yes, please let me know how. As soon as I get anywhere close to them the fly to the furthest corner of the cage scared to death. Although I slowly preset my finger in the cage several times a day, every day for the past 4 months they are still scared. Any help would be welcome.

What do you try fingertaming them with. please tell me and i will tell you how to do fingertame them.

Yes, please let me know how. As soon as I get anywhere close to them the fly to the furthest corner of the cage scared to death. Although I slowly preset my finger in the cage several times a day, every day for the past 4 months they are still scared. Any help would be welcome.

 

Make sure you read the article in the FAQ section too called Taming Your Budgie

If the ceres on both have white as they show in the photos then they are both females.

The recessive pied is also opaline.

 

Where do you see the opaline in the rec. pied? Asking because I want to see it too

 

Recently advised by a budgerigar judge to look at the striations on the face that indicate opaline in recessive pied

What are striations?

I would assume you would mean the reversal of the striping but I don't see that in this recessive pied? Correct me if I am wrong.

If the ceres on both have white as they show in the photos then they are both females.

The recessive pied is also opaline.

 

Where do you see the opaline in the rec. pied? Asking because I want to see it too

 

Recently advised by a budgerigar judge to look at the striations on the face that indicate opaline in recessive pied

 

 

Would a female be so active and noisy. If the white one was human, it would be on Ritalin. It is 100% hyperactive and doesnt leave the green one alone. The green one is a quiet little angel. As soon as the cover comes off of their cage in the morning, the white one heads straight for the green and starts harassing. Now this morning green is not fighting with white, but is tolerating him around and 'locking beaks. White is harassing green, flying to other perch, flying back to harrass green, flying back to other perch, as if jumping from one bed to another....and this goes on all day until the cover goes back on.What is wrong with him. Does this perhaps mean he is male and courting? Also, I believe they were born in November of 2008. I am not really sure how old they are.

I have female budgies that head bob and 'court' other female budgies. Also females can be just as out going and rambunctious as their male counterparts.

What are striations?

Lines

I would assume you would mean the reversal of the striping but I don't see that in this recessive pied? Correct me if I am wrong.

We were told to look for broken striations horizontally on the budgies mask. There seems to be some broken striations but isnt all that clear. Maybe opaline maybe not.

When you look at the side of the face under the eyes the stripes are completely different from the opaline to the normal striping and I would think that the reversal of the striping around the eyes (which is not) would indicate opaline not the broken lines because that could be due to the pied gene .... I have to look at Pretty's picture more closely, not that they are wrong but that wouldn't make sense to me since the striping looks completely different from the opaline to the rec. pied.

The black striations are broken on a Recessive Pied Opaline where as a Normal Recessive Pied has lines of striation going horizontally on most birds