hey guys

As some might know ive been thinking about building a bird room and larger flight cage. my parents needed my old aviary (to be put up) for the dogs shelter (as it wasnt massive and i was upgrading, it was cool). Any way i negociated a little and my mum came up wih the idea so it is all good.

 

My brother (mechanical apprenticeship, good with hands), myself (not that handy), Dad, and i asked my Pop the other day who is an ex concreter/builder.

 

The plan is to build a breeding room/aviary off the side of the current 6x3 garden shed down the back (im on one acre, jimboomba) so on the 6m side, there will be a breeding room approx 2-2.5m along the wall and 2.5-3m outwards. and then with the rest will be flight area. Thats the plan as current but my pop is gonna have look at everything soon. Im sure ive done something wrong!

 

I seem to of lost pro desktop auto CAD :laughter: so i did a little diagram on paint (pretty shabby :fear )

 

Because it against the shed this saves a bit of money as the shed is already tinned along the back. Then both sides will be tinned in and the front will be mesh (all along except a little mesh will wrap around the far right flight end). First you will enter through a door into the breeding area, then another door to the flight area. My breeding cabinets are in the carport at the moment so they will be more enclosed in now than before most been through winter, so it shouldnt be any colder.

 

 

From this information can you see there will be any problems?please tell me so i can work around it. as my pop is on holidays and this will commence when he returns in a few weeks. thanks a heap Cameron......wait to hear from you!

Edited April 29, 200916 yr by cameronsch

I Love it... What is the area between the Breeding room and the shed?

I Love it... What is the area between the Breeding room and the shed?

 

 

I think that's all shed - just showing the centreline of the roof?? Correct me if I'm wrong....

I Love it... What is the area between the Breeding room and the shed?

 

 

I think that's all shed - just showing the centreline of the roof?? Correct me if I'm wrong....

 

 

Yes SJW it is all shed just centre line. sorry i havent kept this topic very exciting ive been away camping and the interent has been stuffing up.

Thanks Daz, i just hope it turns out as well as we plan.

will keep up to date now that im back and as soon as construction starts ill start adding some pictures and stuff hey.

just another question.

ive cleared the area ready for the slab next weekend and then construction starts first day of school holidays. organised itall the other day with my pop.

 

my question is, what would be a good size for a split flight, cocks and hens?

the flight will be 3.5-4m x 2m.

 

or leave one open flight.

 

i know from the holding cages that some of the males turn a little *****, and start to mate with each other.

 

what have you guys done, what would you recommend, if my area is large enough for two flights. i have 40 some budgies now andwill be getting to 60-80. does space

permit?

cheers

The 2m by 4m will be a perfect size for a flight. Boys will try and "impress" each other but rarely actually get to the mating position

Kaz do you have split flights or one open flight?

Edited June 7, 200915 yr by cameronsch

Currently Kaz has one open flight.

 

I think you would be better having one open flight, not separated by gender. If you do want to separate, you are much better off having a kindy flight and an adults flight.

Kaz do you have split flights or one open flight?

Dave is right. I currently have one flight as I am amidst rebuilding. I will then have two flights nearly 6 m by 2 metres each. I will not be seperating male and female. I will have a youngsters flight and an older birds flight.

Edited June 8, 200915 yr by KAZ

okay thanks.

im thinking of possible changes already. new idea and in a differnt place, much more practical and hopefully work out cheaper.

 

id like to put up a 3x3 garden shed. wrap with blue stuff then insulate, line with walls. put half flights (or a liitle more) with other left over section breeding cages all along one wall.

 

i will but a zinc 3x3 off ebay for a 150-200 hundred. what do you guys reckon on insulation of the whole shed ie roof and walls. blue wrapping then lined with mosonite or something.. how much am i looking at for that???? i worked out that ill need 45 m2 of insualtion.

 

just exploring different options beside the aviary original plan. as mum and dad are paying for a lot of it. the original aviary plans they reckon could cost up to $700.00

 

so do you reckon slab and all above materials would be under budget.

 

where i want to put it it will get arvo sun and a tad morning sun. will have the eave of the house poking over a bit of it. so with insualtion walls and roof shouldnt get too hot.

 

and cause powerpoint is right outside carport, less than 10m away, ill just get an extension cord and run through semi permanently to run flouros and other electricals, such as pedestal fans should the need arise.

looks good!

Thanks mysixbabies,

but does anyone have a rough idea on what it would cost, as people have similar setups, just bigger. interested in hearing from you.

Theres some sheds on ebay im looking at, going cheap for what i need. what sort of insulation have you guys used or would recommend, where did you get it from and how much did it cost. i need 45sqmcof it to do all four walls and roof. then what do you line the walls with, what is cheap.

thanks

Theres some sheds on ebay im looking at, going cheap for what i need. what sort of insulation have you guys used or would recommend, where did you get it from and how much did it cost. i need 45sqmcof it to do all four walls and roof. then what do you line the walls with, what is cheap.

thanks

I used polyester batting in the walls with coated plywood on top.

The polyester batting is safer to user than anything fibreglass. It was $33 a bag.

The coated plywood was $5 a sheet ( 1200 by 2400 ) at a clearance hardware store.

I used polystyrene sheet glued to my ceiling. The polystyrene is around 2 inches thick and I bought it out of a trades newspaper....2nd hand but new. My birdroom is 15 degrees centigrade difference from outside.

Edited June 29, 200915 yr by KAZ

Your room looks massive when it is empy, but it sure is filled up now.

Thanks Kaz, just what i was looking for.

That bag of polyester batts..... how many square metres does it cover and what rating was the polyester batts (R....)? because for a 3x3 garden shed fully insulated i worked out:

1 wall: 3mx1.8m= 5.4m2

4 walls : 5.4m2x4= 21.6m2

so i need approx 21.6m2 of polyester batting for all 4 walls.

 

+

 

Polystyrene sheet for roof only:

Gable roof shed(measured ours)=1.5mx3= 4.5m2

= 4.5m2x2

= 9m2 of polystyrene sheet for roofing.

 

Then i need the ply to cover.

Now i know what i need and what im looking for ill get prices. thanks a heap Kaz

Polyester batts are R 30. Thickness of batts are 185 mm ( I split mine to cover more area as they were too thick for the gap.....I use two thirds the thickness and used the extra pieces I peeled off for other areas. ) Batt size is 430mm by 1.60 mm and 8 pieces per pack. Covers 4 square metres ( more if you split the sheets like I did. ).

Declared material thermal resistance 3.0 square metres K/W at 23 degrees C.

 

Polystyrene sheeting I siliconed into place on inside of ceiling.

Edited June 29, 200915 yr by KAZ

Okay thanks for that Kaz. if i can get a 3x3 shed under $250 all should be good. insulation will probably cost around $165. Thats all four walls and roofing. then i will buy either that alumnium tubing from bunnings to frame for the flight which will measure around 3mx1.5. or if my budget doesnt allow ill have to get some pine and build frame that way. I reckon the aluminium looks better like Dazs'. :question:

 

also may i ask kaz why did you not use batts on the roof? was there a particualr reason?

 

do you reckon a fully insulated shed. with the door left open during the day(obviosly with a mesh door shut) would get enough air in? or would i need to have like a pedestal fan mounted on the roof, aimed straight down the middle of cages anf light to help circulate air or something like that?

also may i ask kaz why did you not use batts on the roof? was there a particualr reason?

Because I got all the polystyrene I needed and enough to do it twice over for $50 out of the local paper and it was easier to do the roof by gluing it up with silicone than trying to work out how to attach the fluffy polyester batting. No plywood is up there.

do you reckon a fully insulated shed. with the door left open during the day(obviosly with a mesh door shut) would get enough air in? or would i need to have like a pedestal fan mounted on the roof, aimed straight down the middle of cages anf light to help circulate air or something like that?

You will need to organise crossflow ventilation of some sort...a window at the back ( meshed ) that can be opened to draw air through

totally agree on the cross flow ventilation i ****ed up my bird room lol cause i thought the open door would be enough

but its not

even with the roof lifted a tad on wood with blocks to let an extra ince of air was not enough and juat allowed cold night air in

worst idea ever

now i got to go spend more money on another more practical plan

 

but i will go on

hence reason im susin out you ideas lol

good luck all sounds good

okay will have to put a window at the back. mesh over that. how are you supposed to cut the tin though? probably a stupid question

get a nibbler hope you get your bird room it is going to be good

Yes shannon i am definitley getting a bird room, either my original plan or my second plan, im just trying to price it all out. its just a matter of time and patience. and im not that patient when it comes to things like this and ive waited a while. Have you got a bird room up yet shannon or plan too?

 

And what is a nibbler?

A tool for cutting through metal.

Although a members' budgie on this forum is named Nibbler too

Edited July 4, 200915 yr by Linda_S