Hi all J Purchased a few birds at the Shoalhaven branch annual show today and I'd appreciate your opinions on who should go with who and also just general opinions on the quality of the birds would be good.

Thanks.

 

I thought I'd put who I was thinking of pairing and see what everyone thinks. (Sorry about some of the picture quality)

 

Albino Hen A to Sky Blue Split Albino Opaline Cock

 

 

Albino Hen B to Grey Split Albino Cock

 

 

Double Factor Spangle Hen to Grey Spangle Cock

 

 

Lutino Hen to Grey Green Split Lutino Cock

 

 

I'm trying not to post too many pics by adding new pics as a reply but it keeps on bunching them up together.

 

Sky Blue Yellow Face Hen to Blue Yellow Face Cock

 

 

Another 4 pairs to come

Edited April 19, 200916 yr by Dave_McMinn

I've got no idea who to pair to who as you've probably seen I have a thread similar to this. Very nice birds I really like the yellowfaces and the grey spangle

Thanks,

The grey spangle is one of my favs too, he's a really nice bird the pics don't really do him justice.

 

I saw your thread, you've got some nice birds too, I really like the TCBs, they had a fantastic grey one at the show today (not for sale )

Is your goal to get lots of albinos, lutinos and double factor spangles??? These pairs will result in mostly all yellow or all white chicks.... is that what you are after?

 

The final YF pair will have some double factor yellow faced babies (having white faces) which is fine... it all just depends on what you want.

Edited April 19, 200916 yr by **Liv**

Grey Yellow Face Cinnamon Hen to Grey Green Cinnamon Cock

 

 

Grey Green Oplaine Hen to Lutino Cock

 

 

Sky Blue Hen to Grey Green Recessive Pied Cock

 

 

Sky Blue Oplaine Spangle Hen to Light Green Dominant Pied Cock

 

 

The D.Pied cock has the flights from one of his wings clipped (the one you can see in the picture)

 

Thats the lot........... so what do you think???

 

 

 

I wouldn't mind getting Albino & Lutino chicks as well as DF spangles but I also want to pair them to get the best qualities out of the birds so I don't mind splitting some of my combos up if it would be a better pairing (result in better quality chicks).

Edited April 19, 200916 yr by Dave_McMinn

wow you bought so many birds I really like the Light Green Dominant Pied Cock and the Green Recessive Pied Cock out of the second lot. I bet your stoked.

Yeah I'm pretty happy with them. They're pretty much all my birds though only a couple of pet types aside from these guys. The last 2 I already had and didn't buy today but figured I'd post them with the rest. I spent about $400 all up which isn't too bad for 16 birds especially considering I actually didn't pay for any of them (they were an anniversary present )

Some great looking birds.

 

I am a newbie when it comes to pairing, so i will leave it to others to assist there.

 

Good purchases though.

Wow you have some nice birds there Linda your pairings are pretty good.

The only thing I would suggest is the albino hen would be better with a

grey cock because the blue seems to leave a sheen but that is up to you

are you breeding for show or just to improve your own birds? :cake:

Thanks

 

It might just be the picture, I haven't noticed a blue sheen on either of the Albinos (I'm guessing your talking about the 1st one haveing the blue sheen as the other Albino is paired to a grey).

 

Okay just re-read what you said..... blue tends to leave sheen on Albino not Albino has blue sheen. She'll have to stick with a blue for now as the only other grey I have is the spangle cock and I'd like to leave him with his spangle mate. Maybe if I get some Grey cocks out of the Grey/Albino X Albino pairing I'll put her with a grey cock next year.

 

These are all my birds, pretty much.... only a few pet pairs other than these.

 

I was hoping to show some birds eventually, maybe these guys grandchildren..... if they're up to scratch.

 

I did get some bargins out of this bunch the Grey green Cinnamon cock, the grey green oplaine hen & the sky blue hen were only $10 each and the Light Green D.Pied was $15 (although I purchased him a while ago).

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by Linda_S

Splat is right about pairing greys to albinos rather than blues.

 

In January Kaz and I were at Cec Gearings, a national winner and breeder of some amazing albinos.

 

We asked about pairing blues to albinos, and Cec said no, greys only, as the blues would result in the offsrping have a visible blue sheen to them.

 

Advice to follow if it is possible.

Really nice birds :cake: May I ask what your process is for quarantine and settling them ?

Also lt Green or Dk green is better to lutino mating helps with the much needed buttercup colour

that is required, Dark green is better though :cake: Just some info for your future breeding

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by splat

Your pairings are quite good. Agree with the comment on the albinos though. If you want show quality albinos pair with light greys.

I deliberately pair albinos to violets to get a blue-pink sheen through my albinos - one of many little projects I am working on.

I couldn't tell you the first thing about pairings. But I love this hen, she's gorgeous .

 

Thanks for all your comments.

 

Looks like I need more greys (light greys) and a few green/dark greens. I never see any dark greens around though, they might be hard to find.

 

My plans at the moment are:

Keep hens and cocks in their seperate cages for now (about a week), both cages in my laundry.

Make breeding cabinets.

Make my final decisions about my pairs.

If after a week all are happy, healthy and no one has shown signs of illness, I'll move planed pairs into the breeding cabinets (with nesting holes closed to prevent access).

When pairs are in top condition and seem 'friendly' I'll open the nesting box holes.

 

I've ordered the following products from vetafarm:

 

CALCIVET

PROBOTIC

AVICLENS

COCCIVET

BREEDING AID

MOULTING AID

 

(I haven't used them before but have seen some of them reccomended on here so I thought I'd give them a try to help condition my birds).

 

This is the seed I'm using at the moment

 

Does it seem like an okay mix?

 

Does anyone know of Joe Darmin or _______ Dodd? Some of the birds I purchased had stickers on their cages showing what line they came from but I don't know of any lines???

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by Linda_S

One week isnt enough to

1. quarantine

2. get birds used to new home, new friends and new food

3. some arent in the best of condition yet

3. Breeding is stress conditions

 

I would suggest longer than one week.

 

Darman is a top breeder from what I have gathered....... this topic here talks of him http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=15825

you should wait a few months before breeding because the birds will be stressed in their new home. Quarantine for atleast 40 days and then start thinking about breeding. i would personally put them in the flight for an extra 2 months then start breeding them. Just my opinions.

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by Pearce

you should wait a few months before breeding because the birds will be stressed in their new home. Quarantine for atleast 40 days and then start thinking about breeding. i would personally put them in the flight for an extra 2 months then start breeding them. Just my opinions.

I know you are excited to breed these guys, but I agree with Pearce.

 

 

Have you read MB's topic ? http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....c=25473&hl=

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by KAZ

I wasn't planning on breeding them for a few months yet but I was planning on housing pairs in breeding cages instead of putting them in my aviary (not breeding them just housing them in them in with the entrances to the nest boxes blocked off).

Is there any reason why I need to put them in a flight? Are breeding cages too small to keep them in for a few months??? While being housed in the breeding cages they'd still be kept seperately from the birds I have already. Also the breeding cages will be kept in a sheltered area whereas my flight aviary is more exposed to the elements.

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by Linda_S

Room to fly would be beneficial to enable them to be strong and healthy for breeding.....as hens can lose muscle tone essential for expelling eggs when held up in small areas for a few months.

So you are in esence using the breeding cages for quarantine purposes? That makes total sense to me. You are blocking off their access to the nestboxes. You are keeping them isolated from your other birds. All you are really doing it putting together the birds you want in their own cages, so hopefully they will bond in this time.Makes sense to me.

Room to fly would be beneficial to enable them to be strong and healthy for breeding.....as hens can lose muscle tone essential for expelling eggs when held up in small areas for a few months.

Do you have a spare aviary? as if you do, then all in and quarantining together is fine, if not, the best you can do might be what you have said.

I mis understood what you said. I believe its fine to quarantine birds in pairs in breeding cages. I have done this before. I believe it is better to have them isolated for 90 days than 40 days then introduced into the aviary. and Yeah dave is right, by the end of quarantine the birds will be bonded. These are just my thoughts and opinions.

That was the plan breeding cages doubling as quarantine cages, pairs will have time to form a strong bond and also they'd have more room housed in pairs in the breeding cages than as groups in the cages I use for quarantine.

Given the need for room to fly to ensure the hens are strong for breeding how big of an area would they need to be housed in? As I haven't yet made my breeding cages perhaps I could alter my plans to give them the necessary room.

 

I don't have a spare/quarantine aviary (I wish, would be nice).

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by Linda_S

If you plan on building some cages a "holding" cage would be good, and you can use it in the future for quarantining or for the babies as a kindie cage :offtopic: