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Renee's Breeding Journal April-june 09

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Welcome to the beginning of my new breeding season. Over the next few months I will be breeding my Red Rungers (09 birds). This year the ring date was brought forward from 01.10.10 to 01.09.09 so we have a limited breeding season.

 

As you should know by now, I'm pretty **** when it comes to taking photos, but I have persevered and tried to get as many pairs on film as I can. :o

 

Introducing some of my birds:

 

No pics of Magic and his Violet darling (she was in the nest box at the time) Better luck next time. B)

 

06 Opaline Cinnamon Lightgreen Hen and 06 Normal Greygreen Cock

(both cousins to Carl Alder's National winning Normal Green)

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08 Lightgreen Opaline Spangle Hen and 07 Cinnamon Greygreen Cock

(I want some Opaline Cinnamon Spangles out of this pairing)

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08 DF Yellow Spangle and 06 DF Yellow Spangle (Fran McLoughlin's beauty)

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06 Albino Hen split Spangle and 06 Grey Spangle

(Zylstra birds, I'm hoping for some DF White Spangles)

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06 Lightgreen Spangle Cock (my foundation Spangle) at the door of the nestbox, his daughter, 08 Greygreen Spangle inside ...

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Magic's sister, 08 Greygreen Clearflighted Pied Hen and 07 Opaline Sky Cock

(cousin to Carl Alder's National winning Normal Green)

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08 Greywing Sky Hen 08 Greywing Cobalt Cock

(they are not interested in the nestbox so far....)

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08 Greywing Cobalt Hen and 07 Normal Sky Cock

(neither are these guys....)

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Of course there are other pairs down, but they wouldn't stay still and pose!!!! :D

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look forward to watching this journey unfold :o should get some nice babies there renee :D

Best of luck Renee. I am particularly fond of the df spangle pairing. I look forward to seeing the results.

good luck, look forward to seeing the out comes :o

This pair.............. 06 Albino Hen split Spangle and 06 Grey Spangle

P1010049.jpg

(Zylstra birds, I'm hoping for some DF White Spangles)

 

Hen cannot be split for spangle as spangle is a dominant gene....a bird is either spangle or it isnt.

 

and this hen P1010038.jpg are you sure she is opaline spangle ? It doesnt look it in that photo but maybe bad photo ?

 

 

06 Lightgreen Spangle Cock (my foundation Spangle) at the door of the nestbox, his daughter, 08 Greygreen Spangle inside ...

P1010054.jpg

May I ask ..... Why a father to daughter pairing ?

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Hen cannot be split for spangle as spangle is a dominant gene....a bird is either spangle or it isnt.

 

I think she means masking, as in if you could see the markings they would be spangle but seeings as it is an albino you can't... does that make sense??

Hen cannot be split for spangle as spangle is a dominant gene....a bird is either spangle or it isnt.

 

I think she means masking, as in if you could see the markings they would be spangle but seeings as it is an albino you can't... does that make sense??

Yep .....sounds about right to me :o

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Hen cannot be split for spangle as spangle is a dominant gene....a bird is either spangle or it isnt.

 

I think she means masking, as in if you could see the markings they would be spangle but seeings as it is an albino you can't... does that make sense??

Yep .....sounds about right to me :D

 

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, Thank you Jimmy for the translation! :o

anything for the forum :D I'm glad my expertise *COUGH COUGH* has been of assistance. :D

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anything for the forum :D I'm glad my expertise *COUGH COUGH* has been of assistance. :D
:D
P1010038.jpg this hen are you sure she is opaline spangle ? It doesnt look it in that photo but maybe bad photo?
Yes, bad photo, she's got very washed out Spangle markings
06 Lightgreen Spangle Cock (my foundation Spangle) at the door of the nestbox, his daughter, 08 Greygreen Spangle inside ...P1010054.jpgMay I ask ..... Why a father to daughter pairing ?
I'm doubling up on the gene pool, their chicks will go to the Opaline Spangle and Cinnamon's chicks
Welcome to the beginning of my new breeding season. Over the next few months I will be breeding my Red Rungers (09 birds). This year the ring date was brought forward from 01.10.10 to 01.09.09 so we have a limited breeding season.

 

As you should know by now, I'm pretty **** when it comes to taking photos, but I have persevered and tried to get as many pairs on film as I can. :)

 

Introducing some of my birds:

 

 

 

08 Lightgreen Opaline Spangle Hen and 07 Cinnamon Greygreen Cock

(I want some Opaline Cinnamon Spangles out of this pairing)

P1010038.jpg

 

 

I don't see Opaline in this Spangle hen. You state she has washed out markings. Washed out markings is not an indication of Opaline. The Opaline effect is such that body colour is represented in the wings making the bird appear mostly green. Is the cock split Opaline? If not you will not produce any Opalines with that pairing.

Yes, bad photo, she's got very washed out Spangle markings

A stated before I believe your spangle is not an opaline......this is the markings of an opaline spangle.

 

Chick DSCF8953.jpg

 

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Welcome to the beginning of my new breeding season. Over the next few months I will be breeding my Red Rungers (09 birds). This year the ring date was brought forward from 01.10.10 to 01.09.09 so we have a limited breeding season.

 

As you should know by now, I'm pretty **** when it comes to taking photos, but I have persevered and tried to get as many pairs on film as I can. :)

 

Introducing some of my birds:

 

 

 

08 Lightgreen Opaline Spangle Hen and 07 Cinnamon Greygreen Cock

(I want some Opaline Cinnamon Spangles out of this pairing)

P1010038.jpg

 

 

I don't see Opaline in this Spangle hen. You state she has washed out markings. Washed out markings is not an indication of Opaline. The Opaline effect is such that body colour is represented in the wings making the bird appear mostly green. Is the cock split Opaline? If not you will not produce any Opalines with that pairing.

 

She is definitely an Opaline, she looks just like her Dad :D

All the best with them all Renee. I hope everything works to plan :)

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no bleeding of the green into her wings?

 

No, I'll try and get a better photo of her.

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no bleeding of the green into her wings?

 

No, I'll try and get a better photo of her.

 

P1010067.jpg

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I say she is a cinnamon green spangle and not opaline.

 

Aha! That's interesting ;) Thank you Kaz.

She is definitely an Opaline, she looks just like her Dad ;)

 

So, she isnt an opaline and you say she looks just like her Dad..................have you got a photo of her dad ? :(

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She is definitely an Opaline, she looks just like her Dad ;)

 

So, she isnt an opaline and you say she looks just like her Dad..................have you got a photo of her dad ? :(

 

okay, on closer inspection she has his shape but is not the same variety, he is definitely an Opaline Light green Spangle. Now the reason I think they're both Opalines is that neither have striations on the back of their heads like my other Normal Spangles.

 

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he looks opaline... I thought opaline was sexlinked... wouldn't that mean that his daughter would have to be opaline??

he looks opaline... I thought opaline was sexlinked... wouldn't that mean that his daughter would have to be opaline??

Yeah........weird huh ? ;)

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