I have hen that I am showing next week she is a sky blue she has a very wide face she is going to make a great stock hen.

Well she is ready for breeding in her view her cere is light brown and and she is doing it to the wire every five minutes I will post a picture soon. I need to decide who to put her with.

My choices are;

Violet cock

GG Spangle my old cock that is throwing everything great, the violet cock is his son

Sky cock Geoff Tonkin bird which is half Ross Loats bird

Need to think on this

Edited March 19, 200916 yr by KAZ

Need photos Would love to see the birds you are thinking of

okay Kaz will Later, I have never seen a hen do it to the wire. I have had cock birds that do but i have never seen a hen.

 

This is the hen this photo was taken a view months ago or more and not a real good photo

Edited March 19, 200916 yr by splat

can;t wait to see results!

This is her now

 

I could use this boy grey green op spangle father to Yellow DF and violets

 

This Violet

 

OR this Violet which are full brothers

 

or this sky no relation at all

 

What do you think

Personally splat I would pair her to one of the violets. Purley for colour reasons. We will wait and see what other people have to say.

 

She is a very nice bird.

 

Thinking again Maybe the spangle would be a good choice. You would get some spangle chicks (Spangle is my fav mutation) I'd prefer blues over greens, though.

 

To improve the chicks show quality I have no idea who to pair her to. Possibly the big df spangle yellow in your signature.

Edited March 19, 200916 yr by Pearce

The spangle is the yellow Df's father Pearce, and he is split for blue.

Edited March 19, 200916 yr by splat

okay So I would definitly 100% pair her to the spangle. You would get blue chicks and you would get spangles.

that poor poor boy is the father of nearly all my birds and he is getting old but he is goooood.

keep in mind i don't know about picking good partners for show breeding. but I would look at using the skyblue with her. Unless you want to use the spangle again (sorry fave mutation here too)

 

but i like the look of the sky blue

me i would use the sky boy also

but if you did go a violet boy the second one you put up

or the spangle that is almost everyones father

so long you not going to end up with everyone to close

if he throws good

but thats the only reason your not using him, than i say the more potancy you get from a cock that is of good quality the better and keep the most like father splat the closest looking to him

but you would know that for when you retire him

how old is he just wondering

oh and remember i dont show breed either

i say sky as his colour is nice and even his head looks good couldnt see body all of so .... but he looked nice that my pick if my birds use violet next time ? mabe

Edited March 19, 200916 yr by GenericBlue

Thanks Nerwen and GB, I am thinking sky mainly because I would like some nice skys in my breeding program and he is a nice bird good size as they are both and he has good chest and shoulder and nice length.

The second violet is the strongest out of the 2.

Gb the spangle is 04 bird he is the father of your grey full brother to the violets

Sorry splat - I wouldn't use the sky. To me you are going backwards here with the head feather and facial features. He does not have the directional feather of the hen nor the head and mask width of her. Or the amount of feather generally.

 

Spangle has already proven to throw magnificent babies so my first choice would be there regardless. This is a great way to start a stud based on a strong family line and the hen is a ripper anyway so would be an interesting mix.

 

Second choice would be the second violet although he looks a little dumpy (maybe just the photo) the hen has beautiful posture and should help counter that AND he has lovely feather a big wide head and mask - yes a teeny bit flecked so you may have to watch that. Have you used him before?

Edited March 20, 200916 yr by nubbly5

Sorry splat - I wouldn't use the sky. To me you are going backwards here with the head feather and facial features. He does not have the directional feather of the hen nor the head and mask width of her. Or the amount of feather generally.

 

Spangle has already proven to throw magnificent babies so my first choice would be there regardless. This is a great way to start a stud based on a strong family line and the hen is a ripper anyway so would be an interesting mix.

 

Second choice would be the second violet although he looks a little dumpy (maybe just the photo) the hen has beautiful posture and should help counter that AND he has lovely feather a big wide head and mask - yes a teeny bit flecked so you may have to watch that. Have you used him before?

 

Thanks Nubbly I thought that about the sky cock too, the violet is a big bird he is not dumpy just the photo but I think he would be a better match and no I haven't used him yet. :yes: So I will mostly choose between him and the spangle.

Splat - whats the relationship between the Sky hen and the GG Spangle and also the Violet cock. I agree with Nubbly the 2nd violet is better than both the 1st violet and the sky. Is the sky the one you bought at Geelong auction??

Yes Heath the Sky is a Geoff Tonkin bird father is a Sky pied from Ross Loats and mother a sky from Tonkins he won't be ready to put with any bird for another 2 weeks at least because he is in Quarantine.

What I can see on thier pedigrees Heath is no relation.

Is there any reason why i arent considering the Df Spangle. From what i remember of him, he has good feather length, which would be a good match for the sky hen???????

I already have him planned out but could still use him.

If I was to show him next weekend would that be to much for him as he went to the shield and riverina I really need some advice

Why I haven't really considered him is if I was to use him they all would be spangles and I really was some good quality normals.

Edited March 20, 200916 yr by splat

Gee I just realized that the sky hen is out of the full sister of the mother of the sky cinn spangle and white DF spangle cock so that has made my decision easy.Wjat do you think.

I will put the Yellow DF spangle cock with her.

That's why i asked what the relationships were

i agree with the stud being based on a stronge famley line too

i said sky for colour as i dont show i still tend to look more at colour still at now

but i do also belive bloodlines stronge bloodlines breed best birds

as i said potancy in that spangle is fantastic chicks all resemble him in face feachers (looks)

if you are breeding for stock and not considering colour so much he would be my pick( THE spangle)

but colour the df spangle also has fantastic potancy so yes he would be lovley

i would still go the violet though as colour and potancy

their feathers difrent so he looks to be tighter than her feather and her mask looks to be longer than his ...but mabe thats the angle his spots are lovley ,i would try him regardless besides if you dont take risks you will never know

other wise stick to the cocks you know will produce what you know you will get

 

if that makes sence

Going with the yellow DF spangle thanks all for your help much appreciated

Going with the yellow DF spangle thanks all for your help much appreciated

 

can see side by side pics they both lovley and im wanting to learn what to look for to complament a bird with eachother as i seem to look mainly at head more than anything it would help me understand how to choose good points to place into the birds being breed

if its not a hassle

and a quick run down of what you intend to improve on as this would show me where i go wrong when choosing my larger birds

okay here is teh same hen and the 3 different cocks,

 

 

Edited March 21, 200916 yr by splat

okay here is teh same hen and the 3 different cocks,

 

 

okay the blue does seen nonsuleet now compared to other two boys

still i love him hes got a sweet face also

well df looks good

spangle lovley but

i think you have chose well

the only diffrents really is the spangles feathers seem smother but im sure thats just the picture he is lovley either these boys would give sae rezult ??? or difrent rezult chick mutation im meaning and colour?