If i pair a df white spangle hen with a green recessive pied cock will i be able to get green spangle babies. i know that they will all be carrying pied but what other outcome could there be?

Yes you will get 100% spangles who will be split recessive. If the cock is split to blue then you could get greens, blues, violets, sky blue, cobalt or grey. it all depends what colour the DF spangle is masking

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by **Liv**

Liv,

you're such a brainiac - and full of so much knowledgeable information of course

Well is you separated the blues (by dark factor) why not the greens?? stating green, dark green and olive as the dark factor will affect either line

Well, it will be interesting to see what colours i end up with seeing i have no idea what type their parents were.

Gotta love a surprise packet

it all depends what colour the DF spangle is masking

 

Liv a double factor spangle can not mask what series they are in so if it is a white DF then it is in the blue series if it is a yellow it is in the green series.

 

Unless you meant that they could mask the dark factors and the violet gene which of course is true.

it all depends what colour the DF spangle is masking

 

Liv a double factor spangle can not mask what series they are in so if it is a white DF then it is in the blue series if it is a yellow it is in the green series.

 

Unless you meant that they could mask the dark factors and the violet gene which of course is true.

 

Can a Yellow double factor spangle (green series) be split for blue?

it all depends what colour the DF spangle is masking

 

Liv a double factor spangle can not mask what series they are in so if it is a white DF then it is in the blue series if it is a yellow it is in the green series.

 

Unless you meant that they could mask the dark factors and the violet gene which of course is true.

 

Can a Yellow double factor spangle (green series) be split for blue?

Yes

Yes, it can be. remember it is a double factor spangle as it got the spangle gene from both parents, and it is a yellow based bird as one of its parents were green, not necessarily both.

okay, What is the difference between masking and split?

Masking is covering up a gene that would normally be see if that gene didn't erase the markings. Example, ino gene can erase the marking of a a recessive pied so the bird could be a rec. pied and ino. The gene is still expressed it just that the ino gene has erased the markings on the birds in this case it is the double factor spangle doing the erasing. For this bird it would be considered a Ino Recessive Pied (because it is a recessive pied because it has 2 rec. pied genes)

 

Split means that the recessive gene would NOT be expressed unless the bird was carrying 2 recessive genes. So the bird is not a recessive pied only split. So whatever is dominant is what the bird is example Double Factor Spangle Split to Recessive Pied.

Thankyou elly for the explanation, is their any other gene that can mask other genes? Other than ino..

A green bird can mask yellowface.

 

Double Factor Yellowface's are White faces in the Blue Series.

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by Daz

And from RIP's comments most varities can mask darkwing.

Thankyou elly for the explanation, is their any other gene that can mask other genes? Other than ino..

 

 

Ino, DF spangle and DEC can mask other genes