8 babies from these parents:

 

Cock

 

 

 

Hen

 

 

 

1 of these:

 

 

 

 

4 of these:

 

 

 

 

3 of these:

 

 

 

 

Considering you can't get dilute clearwings (only clearwing split for dilute) anyone got any ideas?

The lighter babies would be dilutes which mean both parents are carrying the dilute gene that is how you got the diluted babies, dilutes can have barely any marking on their wings.

 

The last baby though I would say is a fullbody clearwing because of the intensity of the body color which is a greywing and clearwing mutation together and both of these can be split for dilute also.

 

I can't see the parents very well but they both look like fullbody clearwing split to dilute (per the babies they produced) but that is based on not seeing the back of the wings of the parents.

Its impossible to say that some of the babies are dilute and some are greywing and some are clearwing. The parents can only be clearwing or clearwing split dilute. Meaning some chicks are DF clearwing which usually means a brighter body colour and dirtier wings. Some could be SF clearwing split dilute, having clearer wings but washed out body colour. Or so say the readings i have done.

 

Note i do not YET breed clearwings so i cant say from my own experience.

 

p.s Gorgeous birds

Yes, it was a bit of a mystery to me when they popped up. Apparently they are from a family of clearwings that have been bred clearwing to clearwing for a long time but whose to say there was not a dilute stuck in there somewhere - might have to ask the breeder I originally got them from.

 

On talking to a couple of people who have been breeding CW a lot longer than me, the discussion sort of ended up being around the fact that you cannot have a dilute clearwing (only a clearwing split for dilute) but over time it seems that the diluted body colour characteristic of the dilute has "contaminated" the clearwing. They consider them to be quite definitely clearwings (not dilutes). Many clearwing breeders now see these coloured birds. Henry George calls the "limes". John Mulley considers them to be a combination of cw and dilute characteristics in a cw bird. I being a relative newbie at CW's have not much idea really

 

One other comment I heard by the by, was that there seems to be quite a lot of different body colour forms of the clearwing....... obviously that was I "I heard it from someone, who heard it from someone else" sort of comment so who knows. All I know is that I'll be doing a lot of chatting to a few CW breeders in Tassie this year!

Gina,

What you have going on the photos are Dilutes and Clearwings. Both are also in baby feather so true characterics have yet to manifest themselves. As you know I bred Clearwings and Dilutes for 20 years. Colour was always selected for and I bred Clearwings from the following paraings use in my stud.

 

Clearwing/Dilute x Clearwing

Clearwing/Dilute x Dilute

Clearwing/Dilute x Normal

Normal/Clearwing x Clearwing/Dilute

Normal/Dilute x Clearwing/Dilute

 

I even had a small family of Cinnamon Clearwings especially for my Black Eyed Self breeding.

 

For Clearwings or Dilutes which have been changed by the other allele I use the terms Clearwing modified Dilute or Dilute modified Clearwing. These are more acceptable terms in genetic circles. Strangly enough I found the Greywing is the least affected of this allelic series.