heyy . my best friend has found a very young baby duck. the mother was killed by being hit by a car and this little duck was the only one left. herself and i are going to adopt this baby duck and help it grow up can i put her in the avairy with my budgies?

will get pics soon

xxElisexx

Elise are you aware that as a wild duck you must possess a licence to raisethis baby, it is illegal for you to keep it.

I agree with melbournebudgies, also the duck could have any number of diseases, they could spread to your aviary. Ring rspca or find a local wildlife carer.

Agree with all above... re being illegal and the diseases it may have...

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by maesie

I have to agree too.

 

I was faced with the same situation about 9 years ago when i found a gorgeous day old duckling wandering around our house. I had only had him a day, but the utter cuteness is hard to give up, but i handed him in to a wildlife carer (tears and all) - i love ducks

 

Good luck and i hope you find him a good home before you get too attached.

I didn't realise you needed a permit for a duck?? We have a pair of wild ducks move into our pond in the backyard every year. We feed them when they're here and they have become so used to us they come inside if we leave the door open (not that we do that intentionally).

 

I definitely keep them away from the budgies though.

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Hills

For any wild animal you must have a permit to keep it as and raise it and it must then be returned to the wild, having them stay in your pool isn't the same thing so no issue there Hills.

Our heart talks first and then our head at times the best thing you can do for this duckling is follow the advice above and I am sure if you call they will give you updates, they will probably find a farm in the area that has ducks and intergrate him into the flock .

Depending on its age it will need artificial heating- heat lamp/brooder.

I'm a wildlife carer, so I'd be happy to have himover here if you need somewhere for him No problem getting updates that way . (Also you could grab the old breeding cage I have here for you at the same time if you like )

I think you should listen carefully to everybody's advice and offers on here. It is a great thing you are doing, but imagine how sad you would be if you did everything you could for the duckling and it died anyway. It is really not easy to raise a wild baby animal on your own if you've never done it before.

Edited March 8, 200916 yr by krosp

okay, I am going to have it out with everyone here, and it isn't really just about the duck. It is about everything.

 

Yes you may need a licence because some beaurocrat in their infinite wisdom decided that is how they are going to make more money out of you and want to hold threats of putting you in jail for having the stupidity and kindness to look after a specie that we share the earth with. (That is what humans are supposed to be doing - looking after the planet and all life upon it as caretakers - almost everybody is capable of doing this!) Do you not help it and let it die whilst waiting for some official to tell you yes or no, most likely no, because it is easier to say no, because yes requires work of course. What a load of nonsense. Yes, ofcourse it needs to be looked after because some fool killed it's mother and it isn't old enough to do without her. You are all missing the point...You can all do what anyone else does if you have the capability to do it. So get capable already. Learn to do it yourself, and if you can't, get help from someone who can. If no one can, it dies.

 

If you want to look after a duck, then learn how. It is that simple, and it ought to be that damn simple. For crying out loud, there are people out there who don't even know how to look after their own children, let alone a duck. But they don't need a licence for them. Are you all so trapped in this idea of beaurocratic nonsense to honestly believe that you need a licence for everything. You just need the knowledge and capability, a licence is a piece of officialdom nonsense paper that the person who is writing it out half the time wouldn't even know how to wipe their own backside with. And your taxes are paying for all that nonsense instead of real work that is useful and productive and of value to society that achieves something! Your licence is paying for someone to push paper around a desk = not productive. Do you get paid for doing the work looking after these animals I ask you? The world is backwards. The people who do the work are paying those who do very little or nothing. Backwards I tell you. Backwards, backwards, and backwards.

 

If you think something needs to be done, then either find someone who will do it, or do it yourself. You just learn how to do it. How do you think that any one learns how to do anything, they do it. Sometimes by trial and error (particularly if pioneering it), sometimes by learning from others (apprenticeship), sometimes by studying. Do you think there are enough wildlife carers in all the world to look after every single injured or motherless animal? There aren't. Become one.

There are opportunities staring you in the face everyday.

 

You just do it, do the work, learn how. Stop relying on somebody to do a job that everybody should do, that anybody could do, that nobody does. Do it yourself. Learn how. Get help to learn how. Get the rspca or whoever to train you how. Get paid to train even. Just look after the duck. One wildlife carer can train another. That is how we learn, we learn from those who know and teach us, or we learn by doing it ourselves. Do you think the people who first domesticated wild animals had a frigging licence! The consequences of you doing it and doing it well are, the duck lives for a bit longer - to what purpose? The consequences of you not doing it or doing it poorly, the duck dies - to what purpose? The duck is going to die someday eventually, that is not the point, the point and the purpose is what YOU do, how you spend your time, what you learn from your life. Do you arm yourself with the capability to do more, or do you sit back and wait for someone else to do it? What if there comes a time when there is no one else to do it for you, or give you a licence to do it? Heaven forbid you may have to take your own authority and lead yourself! Who are these people who issue these licences anyhow, are they duck experts? If they are, then they are being paid by the taxpayers of this country to provide you with the education to get the licence. At least, that is how it ought to be. Then why aren't they? I am so sick and tired and fed up with hearing about all this nonsense about licences. It is just another tax, another excuse to suck more money out of people, and another way to cut people off more and more from nature, so they become quite useless and afraid to do anything because they might get put in jail. What a load of nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.

 

How would you feel if you did nothing, and you could have done something, and you missed your opportunity because you listened to the naysayers. Silence them. What do YOU want to do?

Having a tough day DrNat? The concern is not whether Lil' is capable of learning to look after the duck but it is a large fine if she is found to be looking after it without a licence. The licence isn't simply a piece of paper, it requires you to do a years worth of training under the guidance of an experienced wildlife carer to ensure that you have not only have the ability to care for the animal properly but also how to care for it in such a way as to allow it to be released back into the wild in the future successfully.

Wow!! :laughter:

 

I agree with you in this instance DrNat, but the other purpose it serves is to prevent people from going out a taking their own pets from the wild, which of course they shouldn't do. In that situation they would deserve the fines and I suspect this licensing would be saving more animals than its killing.

 

In this case I'd start looking after the duck and follow up on the other stuff afterwards. If she gets fined for that, then I'll join your protest march!!

I'd just like to clarify that you are OF COURSE allowed to care for the animal until you can get it to a registered carer but locating a carer is something that is expected to be done quickly, especially given there are arrangements in place for animals to be picked up from the finder if transport is an issue.

Of course they shouldn't take their pets from the wild, that is why we have pet shops. So you can go there and buy a beloved family friend, and support someone else doing their work, and evolve other life on this planet. Don't you think there might be a purpose in the experience of bonding with humans for all the animals too? And this brings me to my other topic which is the proposed ban by Redlands Shire Council on keeping birds as pets. It is bad enough having these registration licences which are just another tax. Everyone who has anything to do with animals wild or free ought to be concerned about this issue. There are very many people who work in the animal industry, can you imagine the unemployment if this kind of restriction continues. All the restrictions and unproductive administration is clogging and cluttering the economy, our lives, creating unnecessary work that doesn't need to exist, preventing people from doing the jobs that do need to be done, and taking away people's livelihood if they work in the pet industry, or even as a vet! They are also progressively taking away people's freedom, and the enjoyment of life that people can have from their connection with animals, the enjoyment and social involvement in the budgerigar fancy, the education and experience of the animals that we love and tame, the study and learning that we all have even just being on this forum. Are we all just meant to rape the earth of her natural resources and build highrises, roads and huge houses, destroying all the natural beauty of the earth? Are we all just meant to work our lives away in unproductive dead end jobs to pay our taxes, so our governments can impose more nonsense upon us, and give away the taxes we pay to supporting generations of families on welfare simply because, despite being able bodied, they are too lazy to work. There is so much real work that needs to be done, but no one does it, because they don't get paid for it, it requires them to do something, and it is easier to take welfare handouts. Yes I am having a tough day, and I am not the only one. Very soon, everyone will be, unless this situation changes and we stop trying to control everything, everyone starts pulling their own weight, does the job they are paid to do, and starts working out how to help each other succeed in life, so all can live harmoniously, human, animal, plant, earth, the whole lot of us!

I sense you have thought long and hard before putting fingers to keyboard. I applaud your passion!

Yes I am a worker ant in a highrise in Brisbane. I would much rather be doing something more productive than taking money from people for their industry licensing.

Alas, this ant must finish now and go back and shuffle some more papers

Never lose that passion Nat! It'll keep you young and strong!

This isn't a discusion about licencing for pets though, it is a discussion about licensing yourself to care for and release wild animals, a past time that costs the people who do it A LOT of money for only the knowledge that you have been able to return an animal to the wild. The license is not just a license like it is for pet birds it is a certification that you have undertaken the necessary training to care for the animals. Being a wildlife carer is a tough and often heartbreaking job so please don't discount it as just another one of the hoops that the pet industry must jump through as it is completely unrelated.

heyy . my best friend has found a very young baby duck. the mother was killed by being hit by a car and this little duck was the only one left. herself and i are going to adopt this baby duck and help it grow up can i put her in the avairy with my budgies?

will get pics soon

xxElisexx

 

The orginal question was the above and the answer to that is no because pet or wild birds can carry many different disease that can be transferred to your aviary and make your whole aviary sick. That is why we instruct on quarantine and really 30 days is not enough per most bird books and the zoos quarantine for even longer, and the avian vets will say 90 days is best.

 

If we don't give that solid advice on this bird and say it is okay to just stick him in there and the whole flock of birds died then I know the original poster would be marching back here posting on this post saying thanks for the great advice

 

Lets stay on topic and can you update us on how the duck is doing?

It is off topic chatter. The topic is off topic.

 

Correction to my last - do the work you were born to do.

 

A wildlife carer licence is an education. (pretty much the same as getting a degree or a certificate, except that there is no income stream for it because our system does not value unpaid work, so you are effectively doing it for the love which is becoming increasingly difficult in this day and age because our system is rigged, the dice are loaded and the powers that be would rather rape the earth instead of nurturing her, not realising that this will lead to their own end - for what you do to others you do to yourself)

A pet ownership licence is a tax. (pretty much the same as paying the government income tax for work that you do yourself, so not only are you giving away your time and effort, but your financial power as well, so they can impose more restrictions on you and suck more out of you.)

All come under the family of beaurocracy.

 

Do not mix ducks and budgies (education and taxes), although they all belong to the same family of aves, otherwise they all might get disease and end up dead or in hospital/nursing home (a dark, hot place of death, disease and suffering = *** on earth - hello)

 

Are we noticing some general themes here?

 

Do we think that maybe the systems that we live by ought to be corrected already?

Don't you think that our systems ought to reward work instead of taxing us for it?

 

Ever notice that sometimes the people who work the hardest get paid the least? Don't you think that we ought to be redeploying people to productive and fulfilling work that they enjoy, and paying them for it? Don't you think that all this unpaid productive work of real value ought to be paid? Wildlife carer's allowance? Don't you think that we ought to stop paying people for sitting on their bums on welfare not doing anything and start offering them some kind of employment of their choice? Don't you think that every child ought to be supported and educated by the entire community independent of their parents ability or inability to support them, until they are old enough to support themselves? Don't you think we should automate our systems so we can do this efficiently with minimal effort? Who is going to feed the population if we build on all our arable land? What wildlife will there be left to care for if we destroy all our natural habitats? What will be the point of living if there is NO LIFE left on this planet. Don't you think that we ought to make it easier for people who do the work to operate within Australia without all the beaurocratic roadblocks to success. And don't you think it is time we all started to meet our needs in balance with everything else. It is about time that instead of saying, no you can't do that, say yes you can and here is how we are going to help.

 

If property developers want to develop, fine, here are some blocks of land with old pieces of junk sitting on it, pay the owners what they need for it to pay off their debts and live comfortably and build fully sustainable housing on that. Use what we already have instead of destroying more. Where do you think the duck is going to live when you release it? What will you be releasing it to? What happened to it's mother in the first place! She got run over! By us!

 

All this over a bloody duck! But it is the principle of all the issues that this raises, so we probably ought to be asking better questions?

 

Whatever you give your time, effort and money to, is what you support and create more of.

 

Do the work that you were born to do.

Erm...yeah....

 

 

Personally I'd like to see piccies

Yeah, I'd like an update! I can't see why LB would be hesitant to tell us how she's going...

It is off topic chatter. The topic is off topic.

 

My point here is that it is OFF TOPIC for the post and the original question has replies that have quite strayed from what was asked. Not that it needs to be in the OFF TOPIC section which I understand it is already is in.

 

If we want to talk about licenses further, education, what you were born to do we can split the post and start a new post in OFF TOPC because it has nothing to do with the original question.

 

Thank you for understanding :budgiedance:

 

Please update and let us know how everything is going.

Edited March 10, 200916 yr by Elly

I can't see why LB would be hesitant to tell us how she's going... :budgiedance:

 

Gee... wonder why... perhaps because her topic has been taken over!?!?

 

Agree with Elly on her points too.

I like you Nat....

 

Lol, you sure know how to put words together, something I wish I could do better somedays.

And I agree, this world is turning into one of paperwork, taxes and paperwork for taxes (or lic's)

I dont know whether you would be or against my line of work but I'm out there, doing it and I reckon I was born to do it too... and enjoying it