Posted February 27, 200916 yr A question for those breeders who have been around a while: I have a lovely Normal Violet cock bird who after last year's breeding season I have discovered is split for Cinnamonwing. I am aware that running Cinnamon thru the cock bird will enhance the buttercup yellow colour of the Lutino ... but how will the Violet factor modify, if at all the Lutino? All experienced opinions welcome!
February 27, 200916 yr A question for those breeders who have been around a while: I have a lovely Normal Violet cock bird who after last year's breeding season I have discovered is split for Cinnamonwing. I am aware that running Cinnamon thru the cock bird will enhance the buttercup yellow colour of the Lutino ... but how will the Violet factor modify, if at all the Lutino? All experienced opinions welcome! Well, far from a really experienced opinion actually as I have had no real experience with either lutes or violets but from what I would think...... Being a violet he has dark factor (cobalt plus violet factor) I would think being both a dark factor (which intensifies body colour) AND violet (which also intensifies body colour) you would have more of a chance of body colour suffusion in the lutes especially if they were dark factor plus the voilet. BUT then dark factor lutes with a clear body have a better yellow intensity generally too.... ANY Lutie breeders out there?????????? OR give it a go and tell us what happened!!!! Whatever you do even if you put him with a lutie hen you will have to wait for the next generation after to find out as you will only get split lute cocks and normal hens.
February 28, 200916 yr Violet will make a lutinos colour richer. Adding more dark factor will also help. I presume you are aware that mating your violet cock to a lutino hen won't produce any lutinos in the first generation unless he is carrying the gene
February 28, 200916 yr Author Violet will make a lutinos colour richer. Adding more dark factor will also help. I presume you are aware that mating your violet cock to a lutino hen won't produce any lutinos in the first generation unless he is carrying the gene Yes Neville, I had thought of that. It's more of a case that I have this Violet split Cinnamon and I don't want to breed Violet Cinnamons and I'm certainly not interested in 'dirtying' my Normal line with Cinnamon ... so what to do with him? :budgiedance:
February 28, 200916 yr Violet is a dark factor but it is blue series and if you were to do it sooner or later you will end up with Albinos. Wouldn't you be better using a dark green for the dark factor. I personally use light green. :budgiedance: Cinnamon would wash the colour
February 28, 200916 yr I'm no expert with Lutino's. I agree with most of the other comments made, violet is modifier, so it should enhance the intensity of Lutinos. What do you mean "dirty up" my normal line with Cinnamon???
February 28, 200916 yr Author I'm no expert with Lutino's. I agree with most of the other comments made, violet is modifier, so it should enhance the intensity of Lutinos. What do you mean "dirty up" my normal line with Cinnamon??? I mean I need to breed a line of pure Normals (without Opaline or Cinnamonwing) for my Greywings and Clearwings.
February 28, 200916 yr cinnamon and opaline are invaluable to a stud as cinnamon gives you feather and opaline gives you spots and size, I know it can take over but here it seems all the birds that have feather are cinnamon or split cinnamon. :budgiedance:
March 1, 200916 yr Author cinnamon and opaline are invaluable to a stud as cinnamon gives you feather and opaline gives you spots and size,I know it can take over but here it seems all the birds that have feather are cinnamon or split cinnamon. Undoubtably! And I will be using both for my Spangles and Pieds but they have NO place in my breeding program of Greywings and Clearwings- hence the need to breed my own family of 100% Normals.
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