I have 4 clutches of new chicks that are all starting to feather up now. I was taking pictures today and noticed that I have two Opalines from the same parents. The mum is SF Dominant Pied (possibly Clearwing) Light Green Hen and the dad is an Opaline Split Lutino Dark Green Cock. The thing is I some how got what appears to be an Opaline Greywing Hen out of this clutch???? How? Or am I not correct on the guess of this mutation? Here are pics of the two Opaline chicks side by side... one is clearly black and the other grey? Any insite on this? Does this mean that both the parents are split greywing????

 

 

 

Thanks

Chrissy

One more thing to add just in case this falls into play. Once again I fostered eggs and chicks between two pair to even out the number and sizes of chicks in each nest. At first I thought maybe these two Opalines ddidnt' have the same parents and that maybe one was an Opaline Green Hen and the other was an GF2 Opaline Greywing, but both chicks have yellow in the body??

 

The other parents were a Mauve Opaline Hen and a GF2 Greywing Split Ino Sky Blue Cock. I don't think the mum is split greywing and if I recall to get a greywing chick both parents need to be carrying the gene, right?? It's not possible that the "greywing chick" is from this pair is it??? I'm thinking NO, but what do I know.

It could have been that you have mixed up the chicks.

 

If they can from the first pairing then the Cock is also split Opaline and both Hen and Cock are split Greywing and the chicks are both hens.

 

More likely the grey wing has come from the second pair and the Mauve Opaline Hen is also split greywing.

 

I am curious, what do you mean "GF2"? Golden Face type 2?

It could have been that you have mixed up the chicks.

 

If they can from the first pairing then the Cock is also split Opaline and both Hen and Cock are split Greywing and the chicks are both hens.

 

More likely the grey wing has come from the second pair and the Mauve Opaline Hen is also split greywing.

 

I am curious, what do you mean "GF2"? Golden Face type 2?

 

DAZ -

 

By GF2, yes I mean Goldenface II.

 

You confused me a bit on your statement above, because the "first pair" the dad IS Opaline so he can't be split for it. They have had 3 clutches so far and I have only gotten Normals, Dominant Pied, Opaline and Lutinos from this pair. Never anything else.

 

The other thing is that if the chick is from the "second pair".... how is the chick a green series bird when both the parents in pair # 2 are blue series birds ? They had 2 clutches so far and the only color I have gotten from them is Cobalt and Creamino. I have gotten Normals, GF2, and Creaminos from this pair. Never anything else.

 

Pair one... both green series

 

Mum is Single Factor Dominant Pied Light Green Hen

Dad is Opaline SPlit Lutino Dark Green Cock

 

Pair two... both blue series

Mum is Opaline Mauve Hen

Dad is Goldenface II Greywing Split Ino Sky Blue Cock

 

The Chick is questions appears to be Opaline Greywing Light Green Hen????? (chick on right)

 

 

So I'm still confused??

I am curious, what do you mean "GF2"? Golden Face type 2?

By GF2, yes I mean Goldenface II.

There is only one golden face mutation so you don't need the 2. There are two mutations of yellow face which is probably why you have the mutations confused

Any chance your greywing cock had a little fling with your dommie ped hen before the pairs were seperated for breeding ?

Got to agree with Neville and kaz.

 

I've never heard of a GF2 there is only one golden face.

 

I missed read the Cock being Opaline so Kaz is probibly on the right track.

Any chance your greywing cock had a little fling with your dommie ped hen before the pairs were seperated for breeding ?

No "swingers" here KAZ. These two pair have been in their own cages ever since the last time, when I tried putting two pair in one cage and had to seperate them (you probably remember that drama I created trying that). So no, no chance they got at each other in a few months.

Got to agree with Neville and kaz.I've never heard of a GF2 there is only one golden face. I missed read the Cock being Opaline so Kaz is probibly on the right track.

?? I'm confused about the GF2? My bird is a Greywing Sky Blue... in the YF situation I would need the YF2 gene to make him the "green color" he is, if he was YF1 he would be sky blue with a yellow face... so that being said... If I 've been told he is a Goldenface... then if not a GF2 how has his body taken on the green color?? Does Goldenface effect the body color no matter what?

A golden face is a a green bird with a buttercup yellow face. In genetics it is called a Par Parblue. You have a Yellowface type I, a Yellowface type II and a golden face.

A golden face is a a green bird with a buttercup yellow face. In genetics it is called a Par Parblue. You have a Yellowface type I, a Yellowface type II and a golden face.

 

 

Then my bird can't be a Goldenface... if Goldenface is a green bird. He is paired with an opaline mauve hen and their offspring have all been Cobalt blue. Green is dominant color so wouldn't their offspring have been green?? OR is this the explanation on how I have a GREEN OPALINE GREYWING?? If the mom is Opaline, and dad is Goldenface Greywing... dad provided the "green series" were were looking for, mom provided the opaline and dad provided the greywing making mom split greywing too ?? Could this be it?? If not, I'm lost again???

 

Do you think this dad is Goldenface Greywing Split Ino Light Green Cock or is he a Yellowface II Greywing Split Ino Sky Blue Cock ??

 

 

 

goldenface is still part of the parblue gene group better known as yellowface... it is jsut a strong colouring of the yellow. The bird is still a blue series bird not a green series. What colour are the feathers under the wing??

 

I would think he is the farther of the unknown chick, it would be more probable to have a greywing chick appear in a clutch with the known parent with the gene than a pairing with possible splits.

goldenface is still part of the parblue gene group better known as yellowface... it is jsut a strong colouring of the yellow. The bird is still a blue series bird not a green series. What colour are the feathers under the wing??

 

I would think he is the farther of the unknown chick, it would be more probable to have a greywing chick appear in a clutch with the known parent with the gene than a pairing with possible splits.

 

 

 

The underside of the wing is blue...

 

 

So you think this is the father... and you are saying that some how he had to have "got it on" with the Dominant Pied Light Green Hen?? If that's the case then where did the Opaline come form if that's not the case then where did the green come from???

 

Parent Birds:

GF Greywing Split Ino Sky Blue Cock

Opaline Split Lutino Dark Green Cock

Opaline Mauve Hen

SF Dom. Pied Light Green Hen

 

Chick:

Opaline Greywing Light Green Hen

right so he is a goldenface..... i think i was mixing the pairs up last time. the chick would have to appear blue (when born) to be from this pair (the mauve and goldenface) so that rules them out as the parents, even if with the greywing you would think a parent showing it would have more of a chance of having it appear in the nest than from a pair with unknown history to both be split.

right so he is a goldenface..... i think i was mixing the pairs up last time. the chick would have to appear blue (when born) to be from this pair (the mauve and goldenface) so that rules them out as the parents, even if with the greywing you would think a parent showing it would have more of a chance of having it appear in the nest than from a pair with unknown history to both be split.

 

 

So then it appears that the Opaline Greywing Light Green Hen is from my SF Dominant Pied Light Green Hen and my Opaline Dark Green Split Lutino Cock and both these parents must be split Greywing?? Right?