April 17, 200916 yr Wow !! three in one day ....thats unusual I love that boy Got a feeling he is going to turn out to be a bargain....$30 wasnt he ? Edited April 17, 200916 yr by KAZ
April 17, 200916 yr Author $35, and yes, i think he is a total bargain. I took some photos yesterday. There are more chicks today, but i am trying no to bug them too much at this tender age. The two chicks from this pair (Renee and Robbie) The eldest. The second with plum eyes There is one more fertile egg which i have put under a foster to make sure it hatches. The first chick from Long cock and Melanie Look closely at the egg in the front - its cracking and i totally missed it when taking the pics. if i had sat and waited it would have hatched in front of me I will take more pics tomorrow :lightbulb: Edited April 17, 200916 yr by **Liv**
April 17, 200916 yr Love your pictures Liv..........so totally love these guys cant wait to see their babies
April 18, 200916 yr Author Third and final chick from this pair hatched today - another plum eyed one. The tiny red eye from this pair i am starting to think wont make it as its much smaller than its younger sibling - where there is life, there is hope. so i am really hoping she starts to thrive soon - she has always been so much smaller. Her skin is red and dry suggesting that she is dehydrated. her feather fluff is scruffy suggesting malnourishment, however she is fed well by the mother... i might give her some avical to see if it helps... She is on the left, and her younger (and much bigger) sibling on the right.
April 18, 200916 yr i am so happy to see that you have babys i am sorry to here about the younger sibling
April 18, 200916 yr Author She didnt make it either. the little red eye passed away today. her crop failed to empty and she aspirated on her food
April 18, 200916 yr She didnt make it either. the little red eye passed away today. her crop failed to empty and she aspirated on her food
April 25, 200916 yr Author This pair have their first chick hatch yesterday Grey green recessive pied cock with grey green hen. They still have 2 more fertile eggs. The double yolker wasn't fertile, but all others were. This pair laid eggs, but they were all clear. Grey green Dominant Pied cock with Grey green hen This pair only has one surviving chick of 6 I changed my mind and have decided to separate them and put them with different partners next season - i still think there is a genetic mismatch with these two. Grey green cock with grey green hen These two have 3 gorgeous healthy chicks The chicks that i first thought were DF spangle with their plum eyes, are actually cinnamon - The cock (Robbie) must be split cinnamon. Grey spangle cock with Sky blue cinnamon spangle hen How can you tell this one is a hen Would it be the white cere... or the fact she is trying her hardest to draw blood This pair have 5 gorgeous chicks Light green opaline spangle cock with double factor spangle hen Its a bit of a mosh pit in their box, and with the cold weather they are all fighting to be on the bottom of the pile Edited April 25, 200916 yr by **Liv**
April 25, 200916 yr These two have 3 gorgeous healthy chicks The chicks that i first thought were DF spangle with their plum eyes, are actually cinnamon - The cock (Robbie) must be split cinnamon. Grey spangle cock with Sky blue cinnamon spangle hen How can you tell this one is a hen Would it be the white cere... or the fact she is trying her hardest to draw blood I am SO Glad that Renee and Robbie are working out for you! Last year Renee bred me a DF Yellow Spangle that has won Best Novice twice! Here's hoping this pairing brings you success too!
April 25, 200916 yr Author Here is hoping Renee. She is gorgeous too. so placid and lets me give her a scratch or two while I am checking her chicks
April 25, 200916 yr Here is hoping Renee. She is gorgeous too. so placid and lets me give her a scratch or two while I am checking her chicks Just for the benefit of anyone who is asking Why On Earth would I give Liv such a cutie - Well here's the thing: she has bred me 1 fantastic chick and maybe another, not enough by my standards ..... and at the time that I was overcome with generosity the DF Yellow chick had not attained anywhere near his final potential!
April 26, 200916 yr Author I am very grateful for your generosity Renee :emoticon112: The weather has settled a bit today so here is a better photo update These two have 2 chicks now. Chick 1) 2 days old Chick 2) just hatched This pair have one chick, but is under foster parents. Chick 1) A normal green series (not sure on gender) This pair have 3 chicks. Chick 1) A YF spangle Hen Chick 2) A YF cinnamon Spangle Hen Chick 3) I think this one is a YF DF spangle cock This pairs 5 chicks Chick 1) Green Series Spangle Chick 2) Green Series Spangle Chick 3) Yellow DF Spangle Chick 4) Too young to tell, but possibly another Yellow DF spangle with plum eyes Chick 5) Opps i forgot the last one
April 26, 200916 yr This pair have 3 chicks. Chick 1) A YF spangle Hen Chick 2) A YF cinnamon Spangle Hen Chick 3) I think this one is a YF DF spangle cock In case anyone is wondering why the yellowfaces from two white faced parents....Robbie is DF yellowface :emoticon112:
April 26, 200916 yr What makes you think the first chick is spangle? Second looks like it may be, third looks DF, but first im not so sure about.
April 26, 200916 yr Author What makes you think the first chick is spangle? Second looks like it may be, third looks DF, but first im not so sure about. because of the two dark primary tail feathers, where the others are showing light.... I am only learning at picking the mutations young, so if you see something else - i am all ears
April 26, 200916 yr So the 2 middle tail feathers will tell you if its spangle or not? Dark feathers are spangle and white feathers/yellow feathers are normal? Does this work with all colours? Skyblue and dark green etc.
April 26, 200916 yr neither of the two older chicks look spangle to me as the two middle tail feathers are all black (to be spanlge the bit still in the sheath should be white with only black tips) agree with the last as a DF spanlge. the first two with the last pair (lutino and spangle) are opaline - clear bodies and white down. so they are hens unless the mother is masking opaline. Edited April 26, 200916 yr by *Nerwen*
April 26, 200916 yr Spangle tails are as nerwen said, white with dark tips. To me the second chick looked to have white tail feathers so i thought spangle. On second look the white tail feathers do NOT include the main two, which are the ones that clue you in early where spangle would be present. I think nerwen has it right, first and second chick arent spangle, last is DF spangle. I would be curious to see why the second chick has almost all white tail feathers bar the main two however. I'll be watching for updates! Also pearce, there are a few mutations that are easy to pick out early. I learned only the other day that DF spangles have red eyes for the first few days apparently (havent yet seen this myself). Dominant and rec. pieds I learned recently also have clear tail feathers, so it can be a bit confusing where multiple genes may be present in chicks. Ino and cinnamon are easy to identify going by eyes, opalines have white down feathers instead of grey, dom pieds clear head patch is evident very early. Lots of ways to tell mutation early.
April 26, 200916 yr Author Spangle tails are as nerwen said, white with dark tips. To me the second chick looked to have white tail feathers so i thought spangle. On second look the white tail feathers do NOT include the main two, which are the ones that clue you in early where spangle would be present. I think nerwen has it right, first and second chick arent spangle, last is DF spangle. I would be curious to see why the second chick has almost all white tail feathers bar the main two however. I'll be watching for updates! Also pearce, there are a few mutations that are easy to pick out early. I learned only the other day that DF spangles have red eyes for the first few days apparently (havent yet seen this myself). Dominant and rec. pieds I learned recently also have clear tail feathers, so it can be a bit confusing where multiple genes may be present in chicks. Ino and cinnamon are easy to identify going by eyes, opalines have white down feathers instead of grey, dom pieds clear head patch is evident very early. Lots of ways to tell mutation early. That's very interesting and informative Dean, thank you If the first two are not spangles than i will be very interested to see what they develop into (normals i guess) Three chicks that i believe are DF spangle all have plum eyes. Weather this is because they are masking cinnamon or because its the DF gene causing the plum eyes, i don't know. It's really interesting about opaline chicks having white down... i didnt know that. The father of the other spangle clutch is an opaline spangle so all hens are expected to be opaline spangles, however i never considered that the hen could be a DF spangle masking opaline too. I really enjoy watching to see what chicks turn into, It's like really slowly unwrapping presents Edited April 26, 200916 yr by **Liv**
April 26, 200916 yr Author Ahhh, i was looking at the actual feather and not the quill... I understand now how i got it wrong
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