Hi.

 

Is this bird a lacewing? Or fallow? Or somthing else?

 

 

 

 

Eyes are red.

is that green on its wing or just food or a stain what ? and it looks pied not lacewing if it is its the worst lacewing i have ever seen lol sorry mate

still pretty bird but as far as lacewings go

i have no idea sorry

not putting it or you down just never seen a bird with that kind of pie mark could be a fellow mabe really couldnt tell from that picture she pretty but

Edited February 14, 200916 yr by GenericBlue

Thankyou very much Genericblue for your help. It is green on its wing, not a stain. Its eyes are red so could that mean fallow? Im really puzzled.

Can some texas clear bodies have red eyes too?

I dont think so.

Very odd markings. The throat spots look very cinnamon like a lacewing but I've never seen a red eyed bird with green on it's back. I suppose it could be a pied fallow. Are you able to test breed her to prove the mutation?

Very odd markings. The throat spots look very cinnamon like a lacewing but I've never seen a red eyed bird with green on it's back. I suppose it could be a pied fallow. Are you able to test breed her to prove the mutation?

 

thats what i thought pied fellow

if it is its rec not dom or clear flight you can see by the other side more of a rec wing patten

test breeding would also be what i would do

 

could be a kind of a half sider ?????????????

I am breeding her now with a dark green recessive pied. Thankyou all for the comments.

 

Do lacewings usually have colour patches on their wings?

Edited February 14, 200916 yr by Pearce

not green ones

cinnimon on wings normally lacey looking hence the word laced wing

some times they can be really faint and darken as the bird matuers but she must be at least a year if you have put her up so ...

i say a pied fellow but thats only as i have been wanting to breed pied fellows for a while but the ones i have seen had way more body and wing markings only reason you would know they were fellow was to look at their pink eyes

good luck keep us updated please

I am going to take another quick look at her wings/

 

Her wings dont have any markings on them except for the green patch on the right side.

Edited February 14, 200916 yr by Pearce

I am going to take another quick look at her wings/

 

Her wings dont have any markings on them except for the green patch on the right side.

 

you sure looked like they did on picture mabe im seeing things ????

well if that the case could just be a lutino

but im sure i saw cin on last picture take another look please now i think im seeing things lol

Their a 2 very very small brown markings on the left wing, see fourth picture. Other than that their are no lacewing markings. I thought lutinos dont get iris rings? This one definitly has iris rings.

 

I'm just taking wild guesses now but could she be a double factor grey green? Or double factor spangle with some genetic difference?

 

The breeder I bought her from last year has a few birds he calls "quarter siders). He has a tcb with one white patch on the left side of the rump, and a grey green with one blue spot onthe top right hand side of the rump.

Could it be a quarter sider?

mabe bath her and scrub that green stain off wing as it does look like something stained on her and if she like that tomorrow after bath

then take close up of wing markings (as looks like it is on feathers )

how ever if it really is green feathers then i dont have a clue fella sorry :budgiedance:

Lutinos do get iris rings unless maybe they were masking recessive pied.

im really not being rude but it does just look like some thing has driped on her

i paint so know what something looks like when its dryed on really inspect her close i think shes just a lutino who needs a wash

It is definitly 100% a marking, not a stain. I bathed her today and tried to get it off, it definitly is not a stain. Has anyone ever heard of a quarter sider before? And she has brown spots on her back so that means she cannot be lutino

Edited February 14, 200916 yr by Pearce

Can the breeder she cae from tell you her parentage?

No he got the bird from an auction and then sold it directly to me. He does not have the parentage information.

okay well in that case I'm going to hazard a guess that she's probably a bunch of different mutations all mixed up. Maybe opaline, ino and cinnamon, try and have a look under her feathers and see if she has abnormally dark skin in that area it may be excess melanin from skin pigmentation. The reason I say cinnamon and ino is that is essentially your 'lacewing' combo and can appear in other patterns the main thing is the ino cinny combo which causes the cinny markings to show through. I would guess it's also carrying opaline and maybe dom pied or clearflight pied too. If there is excess skin colouring that may explain that touch of colour. WHen their chicks hatch you should be able to tell which dom genes she is masking since you've paired her to an R pied (good choice in this case). Next I would pair her to an ino to work out if she is a lacewing

okay Thankyou very much I willl check in the morning.

 

Thankyou all.

he must know him self if he has birds the same ...

 

 

 

The breeder I bought her from last year has a few birds he calls "quarter siders). He has a tcb with one white patch on the left side of the rump, and a grey green with one blue spot onthe top right hand side of the rump.

Could it be a quarter sider?

quote what you wrote.

i would take what mb says

sorry im not fully convinced looks like stain

but

i do see it has brown on its wing on other side so am not calling you a lier just im a need to see person

i still go with fellow pied if it really is green with the brown marks

and rec pied was a good choise to pair her with

please keep us up dated

Beleive me, I have bathed her and tried to get the green marking off. It is definitly a colour in the feathers, if it was a marking It would have come off. She is not rung, so he does not know who the parents are. She was a throwaway chick because she lacks spots or somthing and cannot be shown.

hey i belive the mum and dad are lacewing to Recessive Pied

As she has iris rings, if she is pied and fallow, the pied type can't be recessive. It could be double factor dominant pied with fallow. I can't see what pairing her with a recessive pied will prove. The throat spots definately look cinnamon

Edited February 14, 200916 yr by Neville

I just chose random pairs Neville. Can you suggest a better cock for her?

 

She definitly has 2 brown patches on her so that makes her cinnamon. She definitly has a patch of green on her wing so that makes her pied

Edited February 15, 200916 yr by Pearce