Posted December 24, 200816 yr I've been looking it up, and I've found websites that say it's a normal Recessive Pied, just another name for it..others say it's like a Recessive Pied, but it has iris rings, (some say it doesn't have iris rings) and is yellow on the top and blue on the bottom..in the pics I saw it just looks like a blue yf2 Recessive Pied..So what's a Harlquin Pied??
December 24, 200816 yr The Recessive Pied Budgie: This variation is also called the Harlequin Budgie or the Danish Pied Budgie
December 25, 200816 yr Recessive Pied is also known as: Danish Pied Danish Recessive Pied Harlequin Pied They DO NOT have iris rings. Due to lack of comminication when the budgie started to mutate to the different varieities we see today, each country or continent would name the bird. When communications improved and fanciers put their head together and realised some birds were one and the same they then started to use terms that were use more frequently. A lot of the standardisation came form the UK as this is were the budgie really began its development. The Harlequin is a term that seems to persist in the USA and also seems to be used in conjunction with Yellowface. Just like the Yellowface Opaline Clearwings are refered to as Rainbows. However adding yellowface to pied does not really produce the same profound effect as it does on the Clearwing. When the someone says it is a Normal Recessive Pied they mean it is a Recessive Pied with no other mutation in its visual makeup. Edited December 25, 200816 yr by RIPbudgies
December 25, 200816 yr I noticed that the term Harlequin is used for animals that have blotchy spots example: the black and white Harlequin Great Dane...I think it may have orginated somewhere along those lines here in the U.S.
December 25, 200816 yr There are these theories about the origin of the term Harlequin: Via Italian Arlecchino from Latin Herculinus, meaning "little Hercules", as if a skit form of the Hercules heroic character was one of various threads leading to its origin. Strongly, from the term Hellequin (leader of la maisnie Hellequin), thought to be related to the Old English Herla Cyning (King Herla), a character usually identified with Woden, possibly also, the German Erlkönig (Elf King).[1][2] For more information about the origin of the Harlequin character, see Commedia dell'arte.
December 25, 200816 yr Author Okay so what you're all saying is, Harlequin Pied is another name for Recessive Pied right? But on some of the websites there's stuff like this: Below Picture is a Harlequin Pied. Note the absent Iris ring and have between 2-6 irregular shaped throat spots. They are similar to Danish Recessive Pied but are yellow and blue only.They have irregular patches of ground colour on their body (covers most of the bottom half), with an even solid shade of body colour. Black bars or spots cover the back of the head, neck and cheeks. Wing markings are random in pattern and distribution, they cover about 10% to 20% of the total wing area. The frontal crown should be free of markings. Note this hen's frontal crown markings are still fading and she is also a Golden-Face, as that is why her mask is a deeper yellow then her body colour. http://www.freewebs.com/budgerigarplanet/Echo.jpg Edited December 26, 200816 yr by Elly image over the size requlation, credit for image: budgerigarplanet
December 26, 200816 yr Author So is that bird a yf2 Recessive Pied or something..? If so, then why would they call a yf2 Rec. Pied a Harlequin Pied?
December 26, 200816 yr Jen144 you must taken into account when surfing the WWW that 90% of sites dedicated to budiges haven't got a clue what they are taking about. The majority is just written regurgitation from what they have read elsewhere. If the source is wrong it does not matter how many times it is written down it is still wrong. People also tend to put their own slant on things. If the person likes the name Herlequin for example rather the term Recessive Pied or Danish Pied they will then use that term. The bird in the picture is a Goldenface(sf) Recessive Pied Cobalt
December 26, 200816 yr Author Jen144 you must taken into account when surfing the WWW that 90% of sites dedicated to budiges haven't got a clue what they are taking about. The majority is just written regurgitation from what they have read elsewhere. If the source is wrong it does not matter how many times it is written down it is still wrong. People also tend to put their own slant on things. If the person likes the name Herlequin for example rather the term Recessive Pied or Danish Pied they will then use that term. The bird in the picture is a Goldenface(sf) Recessive Pied Cobalt Yes I know, that is what makes it so confusing lol..so really Harlequin Pied is Recessive Pied, but about 50% of the people say a yellowface2 or goldenface blue Recessive Pied is a Harlequin Pied..Okay.
December 26, 200816 yr Yes I know, that is what makes it so confusing lol..so really Harlequin Pied is Recessive Pied, but about 50% of the people say a yellowface2 or goldenface blue Recessive Pied is a Harlequin Pied..Okay. I wouldn't say it was 50% I've only ever hear about 5 people call it a harlequin...
December 26, 200816 yr RIPbudgies is so correct about surfing. On here I have never heard it called that unless someone read it and brought the information here. It is not a term that is loosely used "recessive" pied is the correct terminology for this mutation.
December 26, 200816 yr Okay so what you're all saying is, Harlequin Pied is another name for Recessive Pied right?But on some of the websites there's stuff like this: Below Picture is a Harlequin Pied. Note the absent Iris ring and have between 2-6 irregular shaped throat spots. They are similar to Danish Recessive Pied but are yellow and blue only.They have irregular patches of ground colour on their body (covers most of the bottom half), with an even solid shade of body colour. Black bars or spots cover the back of the head, neck and cheeks. Wing markings are random in pattern and distribution, they cover about 10% to 20% of the total wing area. The frontal crown should be free of markings. Note this hen's frontal crown markings are still fading and she is also a Golden-Face, as that is why her mask is a deeper yellow then her body colour. http://www.freewebs.com/budgerigarplanet/Echo.jpg I would say that the person who has that website is slightly misinformed. Edited July 17, 200916 yr by KAZ
December 28, 200816 yr http://www.freewebs.com/budgerigarplanet/Echo.jpg this yours lovley i so want it lol i call them harliquin pies but so i can destingwish for me in my own stock my birds golden face sky blue or colbolts in my birds cop it so i can keep my type twos not mixed as i have trouble with the diffrents sounds silly i know
December 28, 200816 yr Had a look around budgerigarplanet website. She has a section for Rainbows yet shows them in Spangle and Dom Pied. Rainbows are Goldenface Opaline Clearwing Blue series. Always have been always will be. This name comes for the Keston Foreign Bird Farm who began their production way back in the 1930's I think it was. On the Variety Differences pages go down to Greywing, Clearwing and Dilutes section. Picture on left "Sky-Blue Clearwing Hen (Blue Series, Left)" is a Dilute Sky and the "Dulite Blue Male (Blue Series, Right.)" is a Spangle which is either Dilute or Cinnamon. The Texas Clearbody is not right either. Not knowing the breeding but it does look like a melanistic spangle. I have bred aSpangle Oplaine TCB and they don't look nothing like that. Here is the link. http://www.freewebs.com/budgerigarplanet/v...differences.htm Edited December 28, 200816 yr by RIPbudgies
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