Need a picture of the back of the bird please and if you have a picture of the eye too or a side view.

Edited December 23, 200816 yr by Elly

a pied?

Edited December 23, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

I'll wait for a picture showing the back

Unfortunately this is the only picture I have left of this bird. I can tell you he has an iris ring and has very little markings on the back but what there were normal barring in nature.

 

I knew I should never have deleted those hundreds of photos. Oh well. :happy-dancing:

Double Factor Dominant pied ?

I agree with Kaz. DF Dominant pied

Has he got wing markings?

I'll say a double factor dominant pied too

Has he got wing markings?

 

The majority of his wings were clear of markings but what was there were normal in nature.

I bred a domanint pied this year and he was really pretty, he was cobalt he had one thin stripe of cobalt on his front hardly noticeable so his whole front was white in other words and he had wing markings as normal but hardly any so most of his wings were white too, he had the cobalt on his back behind his wings though and he has some bar markings.

But his parents were normal and father pied

going with that information I will go with Green Double Factor Pied too

But my bird couldn't be double factor because both nest had normals in it I ahven't even got a big because he was murdered by his adopted mother

Splat you are correct you bird was not a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

 

It seems to be a common misconception that because the bird is almost devoid of markings it is a Double Factor Dominant Pied. Of course you found out your's wasn't but I bet it confused you because of what people are telling you.

Splat you are correct you bird was not a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

 

It seems to be a common misconception that because the bird is almost devoid of markings it is a Double Factor Dominant Pied. Of course you found out your's wasn't but I bet it confused you because of what people are telling you.

 

It could still be double factor if both parents were single factor pied. If so in theory you should have the usual 1:2:1 ratio of normal, single factor and double factor pieds all in the same nest.

Splat you are correct you bird was not a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

 

It seems to be a common misconception that because the bird is almost devoid of markings it is a Double Factor Dominant Pied. Of course you found out your's wasn't but I bet it confused you because of what people are telling you.

 

It could still be double factor if both parents were single factor pied. If so in theory you should have the usual 1:2:1 ratio of normal, single factor and double factor pieds all in the same nest.

 

I think you missed the point here.

 

Splat had bred a pied very like the one I pictured on this thread. It was bred from a Normal parent and a Pied parent. Splat was told it was Double Factored based purely on the fact that it had very few pied markings. So far every body who has contributed to this thread holds thats belief and labelled the Pied on this thread a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

so what is it if it isn't a DF dom pied?

Splat you are correct you bird was not a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

 

It seems to be a common misconception that because the bird is almost devoid of markings it is a Double Factor Dominant Pied. Of course you found out your's wasn't but I bet it confused you because of what people are telling you.

 

It could still be double factor if both parents were single factor pied. If so in theory you should have the usual 1:2:1 ratio of normal, single factor and double factor pieds all in the same nest.

 

I think you missed the point here.

 

Splat had bred a pied very like the one I pictured on this thread. It was bred from a Normal parent and a Pied parent. Splat was told it was Double Factored based purely on the fact that it had very few pied markings. So far every body who has contributed to this thread holds thats belief and labelled the Pied on this thread a Double Factored Dominant Pied.

 

Hmm, skimming quickly through the posts I did miss the reference to Splat's bird's parentage. I have made no assumptions about what your bird actually is, just given a possibility/probability for Splat (or anyone else) producing df factor dom. pieds when normals also appear in a nest.

I am a Single Factor Dominant Pied Light Green

 

I posted this bird to show you all that just because a bird has very little pied markings it is not necessarily a Double Factor Pied. If both parents were SF pied then it is a possibility but not a fact. If both parents were DF pied then yes it would be fact. Splat's pied is an example of what people say based purely on visual assesment.

 

What you see is not always what you think it is. My other What Am I post points that out. With some birds you need to be detective like in your approach to figure it out. I remember somewhere on this forum somebody is going to pair a Spangle with a Texas Clearbody. Boy are you in for an interesting result.

what would you expect from that pairing (Spangle x TCB) RIP?

what would you expect from that pairing (Spangle x TCB) RIP?

 

Yeah JB you'll definately get a Spangle Texas Clearbody it is the visual result that is the surprise. I produced one and it was also Opaline. It was what I expected but it the bird was placed on the show bench (as I did) very few people are able to see what a bird really is. When I put this bird in a show (AOV of course) there was no problem with people recognising the Spangle and most even got the Opaline but nobody picked up on the Texas Clearbody. They are so used to seeing the "show only" stuff they don't see the myirad of combinations and their effects to know what to look for. Here is a back picture of the bird. I have no front picture and it wouldn't really help anyhow. Forgive the quality as at the time this picture was taken with a video camera and then image capture.

 

I am a Single Factor Dominant Pied Light Green

 

I posted this bird to show you all that just because a bird has very little pied markings it is not necessarily a Double Factor Pied. If both parents were SF pied then it is a possibility but not a fact. If both parents were DF pied then yes it would be fact. Splat's pied is an example of what people say based purely on visual assesment.

This does happen in about one time in a hundred and when it does most times there is another mutation involved

I am a Single Factor Dominant Pied Light Green

 

I posted this bird to show you all that just because a bird has very little pied markings it is not necessarily a Double Factor Pied. If both parents were SF pied then it is a possibility but not a fact. If both parents were DF pied then yes it would be fact. Splat's pied is an example of what people say based purely on visual assesment.

This does happen in about one time in a hundred and when it does most times there is another mutation involved

 

I assure you Neville that bird is 100% visual Dominant Pied. His only other relation a couple of generations back was a Clearwing Dominant Pied hen picked up from a breeder who reckoned it was a Greywing Dom Pied. Nothing else was added to this line except normals.

T'was great to read about this. My friend had a cock looking like a DF pied and he produced normals, recessive pieds and dominant pieds - and actually 3 out of 6 were recessive pieds, 2 normals and 1 dominant. We were so sure about him being a DF pied too, so you can imagine how surprised we were to get all that. I thought he might have been a combination of dominant pied and a recessive pied, but now that I've read about others I guess he too, is just an odd case dominant pied.

 

You can read about him and his clutch in here http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=22393