With a ton of help from RIP and many others, I think we have most of the mutations of my 2 new clutches in the works. I took new pics today and here's what we got. If anyone can add imput on the sexes or mutations, please let me know... I'm not sure if I even have the names stated properly, if not can someone correct me please?

 

These chicks came from 2 pair:

 

Opaline Mauve Hen

Single Factor Goldenface Full Body Colored Greywing Sky Blue Split for Albino and Recessive Pied Cock

and

Single Factore Dominant Pied Light Green Hen

Opaline Split for Lutino Dark Green Cock

 

Chick # 1 - Single Factor Goldenface Split for Ino and Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt ?? (Don't know sex?)

 

Chick # 2 - Normal Split for Opaline Dark Green Cock??

 

Chick # 3 - Lutino Masking Opaline and Dominate Pied Light or Dark Green Hen??

 

Chick #4 - Albino Split Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt Hen??

 

Chick # 5 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt??

 

Chick # 6 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Mauve

 

Chick # 7 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light Green Cock

 

Chick # 8 - Opaline Light Green Hen

 

Chick # 9 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen

 

Chick # 10 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light or Dark Green Cock

 

Chick # 11 - Still unsure what this is besides Light or Dark Green (I'm thinking Dominant Pied??)

Edited December 22, 200816 yr by KAZ

With a ton of help from RIP and many others, I think we have most of the mutations of my 2 new clutches in the works. I took new pics today and here's what we got. If anyone can add imput on the sexes or mutations, please let me know... I'm not sure if I even have the names stated properly, if not can someone correct me please?

 

Chrissy it would have been handy to say which chick is from which pair.

 

These chicks came from 2 pair:

 

Opaline Mauve Hen

Single Factor Goldenface Full Body Colored Greywing Sky Blue Split for Albino and Recessive Pied Cock

and

Single Factore Dominant Pied Light Green Hen

Opaline Split for Lutino Dark Green Cock

 

Chick # 1 - Single Factor Goldenface Split for Ino and Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt ?? (Don't know sex?)Is a GF(sf) Coablt. Wait till you know the sex to figure out what the SL recessives are

 

Chick # 2 - Normal Split for Opaline Dark Green Cock?? Most definately see a Dark Green Normal

 

Chick # 3 - Lutino Masking Opaline and Dominate Pied Light or Dark Green Hen?? Definately a Lutino

 

Chick #4 - Albino Split Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt Hen?? This is looking a lot like a GF(sf) Albino

 

Chick # 5 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt?? I am not sure if I can see yellow of the head of this baby as the photo is too blurry

 

Chick # 6 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Mauve This is a Cobalt. This photo also is blurry and I am not sure if I am sseing Yellow on the head. I also think these photos were taken in incandesant light which will yellow up the image.

 

Chick # 7 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light Green Cock Yep and I am leaning to Dark Green

 

Chick # 8 - Opaline Light Green Hen Actually I am leaning to Dark Green at this time

 

Chick # 9 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen Not enough body feather yet too tell but is Opaline all right

 

Chick # 10 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light or Dark Green Cock Sure is looking Pied to me

 

Chick # 11 - Still unsure what this is besides Light or Dark Green (I'm thinking Dominant Pied??) I am not seeing Pied at this time but those down feathers poking through look like Opaline. Another couple of days and you'll know

With a ton of help from RIP and many others, I think we have most of the mutations of my 2 new clutches in the works. I took new pics today and here's what we got. If anyone can add imput on the sexes or mutations, please let me know... I'm not sure if I even have the names stated properly, if not can someone correct me please?Chrissy it would have been handy to say which chick is from which pair.These chicks came from 2 pair: Opaline Mauve Hen Single Factor Goldenface Full Body Colored Greywing Sky Blue Split for Albino and Recessive Pied Cock and Single Factore Dominant Pied Light Green Hen Opaline Split for Lutino Dark Green Cock Chick # 1 from pair #1 - Single Factor Goldenface Split for Ino and Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt ?? (Don't know sex?)Is a GF(sf) Coablt. Wait till you know the sex to figure out what the SL recessives are I don't think I understand this part... I'll have to read up more on this... I knew hens couldn't be split for opaline or Ino, but I don't know the Greywing/Clearwing rules? Chick # 2 from pair #2 - Normal Split for Opaline Dark Green Cock?? Most definately see a Dark Green NormalChick # 3 from pair #2 - Lutino Masking Opaline and Dominate Pied Light or Dark Green Hen?? Definately a Lutino Did I say the name right... "masking opaline..."?Chick #4 from pair #1 - Albino Split Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt Hen?? This is looking a lot like a GF(sf) Albino What does Goldenface Albino mean... will it still be all white when fully feathered or will it be white with a yellow face? When I put the Albino next to the Lutino the Albino's head and tail look yellow? Maybe it's just my lighting in the house. Chick # 5 from Pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt?? I am not sure if I can see yellow of the head of this baby as the photo is too blurry To be honest RIP I thought I saw yellow too, but I thought it was just the lighting... I even went back in the box and pulled him again after I saw the picture and still thought I saw a bit of yellow?? Maybe another GF(sf)??Chick # 6 from pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Mauve This is a Cobalt. This photo also is blurry and I am not sure if I am sseing Yellow on the head. I also think these photos were taken in incandesant light which will yellow up the image. Is this cobalt because dad is sky blue and mom is mauve... the middle is cobalt? Is that how you figure cobalt instead of mauve? Can a sky blue and a mauve have a mauve chick? Is that possible? I'm going to have to watch chick 5 and 6 over the next few days for the yellow on the head maybe I have three GF(sf) chicks? But for a bit there my Albino looked yellow on his head and I thought that was the lighting too so I didn't think the normals where yellow, I thought it was just me. Chick # 7 from pair #2 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light Green Cock Yep and I am leaning to Dark Green Can you tell me what you look at that helps you tell dark vs. light?Chick # 8 from pair #2 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen Actually I am leaning to Dark Green at this timeChick # 9 from pair #2 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen Not enough body feather yet too tell but is Opaline all rightChick # 10 from pair # 2 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light or Dark Green Cock Sure is looking Pied to meChick # 11 from pair #2 - Still unsure what this is besides Light or Dark Green (I'm thinking Dominant Pied??) I am not seeing Pied at this time but those down feathers poking through look like Opaline. Another couple of days and you'll know Pied guess just because of the dark near the forehead, but I was thinking Opaline at first... we'll have to wait and see on this one.

Here is a picture I took with the flash on... (you are right all the other pics were taken with incandescent light)... the chick right in the middle is one that you and I think we see yellow on the head and the chick with it's head burried on the far left is the other one... maybe you can tell from this picture?? I will have to see if I can retake the pics tomorrow in the natural sunlight by the window or something.... or find a lamp with a flourescent bulb instead?

"Albino" Looks more like a creamino ... YF Albino .... Could be the photo though ....

a goldenface albino is also known as a creamino chrissy :rofl: I thought I saw a couple of yellow pin feathers down near the tail too so its a possibility.It might just be the light though... Like RIP said if the are males they will be split if they're hens they won't be... They look great

Edited December 22, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

i dont know what they are but i do know one thing OMG THEY ARE CUTE!

Chick # 1 - Single Factor Goldenface Split for Ino and Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt ?? (Don't know sex?)

 

RIPbudgies: Is a GF(sf) Coablt. Wait till you know the sex to figure out what the SL recessives are

Chrissy: I don't think I understand this part... I'll have to read up more on this... I knew hens couldn't be split for opaline or Ino, but I don't know the Greywing/Clearwing rules?

 

SL = Sex Linked.

 

Until the sexes of the chicks are known you cannot say which ones are split to a sex linked mutation.

 

Because the cock is split for Ino there is a 25% chance that any cocks could be Split Ino.

 

As for the Greywing/Clearwing rules. Order of Dominance is thus – Greywing, Clearwing, Dilute. They are all variations (Alleles) of the Dilute locus and their genetic terms are

Greywing = dil^gw

 

Clearwing = dil^cw

 

Dilute = dil

A bird can only carry two of the three alleles at one time.

 

 

 

Chick #4 from pair #1 - Albino Split Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt Hen??

 

RIPbudgies: This is looking a lot like a GF(sf) Albino

Chrissy: What does Goldenface Albino mean... will it still be all white when fully feathered or will it be white with a yellow face? When I put the Albino next to the Lutino the Albino's head and tail look yellow? Maybe it's just my lighting in the house.

Because the bird is a blue series bird i.e. Cobalt and carrying the Ino gene it is then termed Albino. If the bird where from the green series it would be a Lutino.

 

Because the bird is also a Goldenface(sf) it will have yellow all over the body. This is a prime example to show the extent of yellow distribution and depth of colour that is there when everything else has been stripped away. When she goes through her moult the yellow will darken a little more.

 

 

 

Chick # 5 from Pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt??

 

RIPbudgies: I am not sure if I can see yellow of the head of this baby as the photo is too blurry

 

Chrissy: To be honest RIP I thought I saw yellow too, but I thought it was just the lighting... I even went back in the box and pulled him again after I saw the picture and still thought I saw a bit of yellow?? Maybe another GF

 

Maybe, give it a few more days.

 

 

 

Chick # 6 from pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Mauve

 

RIPbudgies: This is a Cobalt. This photo also is blurry and I am not sure if I am sseing Yellow on the head. I also think these photos were taken in incandesant light which will yellow up the image.

Chrissy: Is this cobalt because dad is sky blue and mom is mauve... the middle is cobalt? Is that how you figure cobalt instead of mauve? Can a sky blue and a mauve have a mauve chick? Is that possible? I'm going to have to watch chick 5 and 6 over the next few days for the yellow on the head maybe I have three GF(sf) chicks? But for a bit there my Albino looked yellow on his head and I thought that was the lighting too so I didn't think the normals where yellow, I thought it was just me.

All the birds from pair #1 will be Cobalt because it has inherited only one dark factor which is from the mum. Check out the dark factor article it does explain it for you.

http://www.doves.com.au/dkfactors.html

 

 

 

Chick # 7 from pair #2 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light Green Cock

 

RIPbudgies: Yep and I am leaning to Dark Green

 

Chrissy: Can you tell me what you look at that helps you tell dark vs.

Rump feathers.

Edited December 22, 200816 yr by RIPbudgies

RIP, I envy your knowledge. You not only know this stuff, you are good at explaining it. I can't thank you enough for all the help. I'll repost more pics in a few days in natural sunlight of the chicks we still have in question (mainly the GF vs. Normals). Again everyone has been great on this... I can't believe how much I have learned from these two clutches... let alone how much more I now know about the parents of the chicks. This is great. Thanks again EVERYONE.

a goldenface albino is also known as a creamino chrissy I thought I saw a couple of yellow pin feathers down near the tail too so its a possibility.It might just be the light though... Like RIP said if the are males they will be split if they're hens they won't be... They look great

Thanks JB... I think I'm gonna like what this bird looks like if this is the case.

i really enjoy looking at baby/budgie fotos. i have found some peace now (lost my budgie to my dog last thursday). its still empty and queit and i dont like my dog as much, but i know there a budgie out there waiting for me.

snowy

 

 

With a ton of help from RIP and many others, I think we have most of the mutations of my 2 new clutches in the works. I took new pics today and here's what we got. If anyone can add imput on the sexes or mutations, please let me know... I'm not sure if I even have the names stated properly, if not can someone correct me please?Chrissy it would have been handy to say which chick is from which pair.These chicks came from 2 pair: Opaline Mauve Hen Single Factor Goldenface Full Body Colored Greywing Sky Blue Split for Albino and Recessive Pied Cock and Single Factore Dominant Pied Light Green Hen Opaline Split for Lutino Dark Green Cock Chick # 1 from pair #1 - Single Factor Goldenface Split for Ino and Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt ?? (Don't know sex?)Is a GF(sf) Coablt. Wait till you know the sex to figure out what the SL recessives are I don't think I understand this part... I'll have to read up more on this... I knew hens couldn't be split for opaline or Ino, but I don't know the Greywing/Clearwing rules? Chick # 2 from pair #2 - Normal Split for Opaline Dark Green Cock?? Most definately see a Dark Green NormalChick # 3 from pair #2 - Lutino Masking Opaline and Dominate Pied Light or Dark Green Hen?? Definately a Lutino Did I say the name right... "masking opaline..."?Chick #4 from pair #1 - Albino Split Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt Hen?? This is looking a lot like a GF(sf) Albino What does Goldenface Albino mean... will it still be all white when fully feathered or will it be white with a yellow face? When I put the Albino next to the Lutino the Albino's head and tail look yellow? Maybe it's just my lighting in the house. Chick # 5 from Pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Cobalt?? I am not sure if I can see yellow of the head of this baby as the photo is too blurry To be honest RIP I thought I saw yellow too, but I thought it was just the lighting... I even went back in the box and pulled him again after I saw the picture and still thought I saw a bit of yellow?? Maybe another GF(sf)??Chick # 6 from pair #1 - Normal Split for Greywing or Clearwing Mauve This is a Cobalt. This photo also is blurry and I am not sure if I am sseing Yellow on the head. I also think these photos were taken in incandesant light which will yellow up the image. Is this cobalt because dad is sky blue and mom is mauve... the middle is cobalt? Is that how you figure cobalt instead of mauve? Can a sky blue and a mauve have a mauve chick? Is that possible? I'm going to have to watch chick 5 and 6 over the next few days for the yellow on the head maybe I have three GF(sf) chicks? But for a bit there my Albino looked yellow on his head and I thought that was the lighting too so I didn't think the normals where yellow, I thought it was just me. Chick # 7 from pair #2 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light Green Cock Yep and I am leaning to Dark Green Can you tell me what you look at that helps you tell dark vs. light?Chick # 8 from pair #2 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen Actually I am leaning to Dark Green at this timeChick # 9 from pair #2 - Opaline Light or Dark Green Hen Not enough body feather yet too tell but is Opaline all rightChick # 10 from pair # 2 - Dominant Pied Split for Opaline Light or Dark Green Cock Sure is looking Pied to meChick # 11 from pair #2 - Still unsure what this is besides Light or Dark Green (I'm thinking Dominant Pied??) I am not seeing Pied at this time but those down feathers poking through look like Opaline. Another couple of days and you'll know Pied guess just because of the dark near the forehead, but I was thinking Opaline at first... we'll have to wait and see on this one.

Here is a picture I took with the flash on... (you are right all the other pics were taken with incandescent light)... the chick right in the middle is one that you and I think we see yellow on the head and the chick with it's head burried on the far left is the other one... maybe you can tell from this picture?? I will have to see if I can retake the pics tomorrow in the natural sunlight by the window or something.... or find a lamp with a flourescent bulb instead?

RIP, I envy your knowledge. You not only know this stuff, you are good at explaining it. I can't thank you enough for all the help. I'll repost more pics in a few days in natural sunlight of the chicks we still have in question (mainly the GF vs. Normals). Again everyone has been great on this... I can't believe how much I have learned from these two clutches... let alone how much more I now know about the parents of the chicks. This is great. Thanks again EVERYONE.

a goldenface albino is also known as a creamino chrissy :baby: I thought I saw a couple of yellow pin feathers down near the tail too so its a possibility.It might just be the light though... :mallet: Like RIP said if the are males they will be split if they're hens they won't be... They look great

Thanks JB... I think I'm gonna like what this bird looks like if this is the case.

 

Chrissy you will like the bird. I have bred Goldenface in all mutations. It seems no matter what is is combined with it looks great.