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If you breed a normal hen to any other kind of cock will all the normal chicks be hens??? And vice versa normal cock to any type of hen will the normal chicks be all cocks?

Edited by chrissy0705

They aren't a Sex Link Gene ..

 

From my experience it didn't make a difference with normals ...

Edited by Neat

normal isn't sex linked so the normals could be either... however if you were breeding with another sex linked gene I guess you could tell that way... like a normal to an ino or something...

If the cock is split opaline or cinnamon you will get opaline or cinnamon hens and split cocks

Not in my experience - I have had male and female normals from both combinations of parents and it makes no difference. Even had male and female normals from a pair where neither parent was normal :)

As splat said above it is this general rule of thumb

 

any sex-linked gene will work the way splat explained it if the cock is or is split for a sex-linked and is paired to a normal hen then all the ones that visually express the gene are hens.

 

Normal is a either dominant or recessive to other genes not sex-linked.

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As splat said above it is this general rule of thumb

 

any sex-linked gene will work the way splat explained it if the cock is or is split for a sex-linked and is paired to a normal hen then all the ones that visually express the gene are hens.

 

Normal is a either dominant or recessive to other genes not sex-linked.

 

 

Wow I think I actually understand that. So... one more example... I have a pair down that is a cobalt normal hen and a sky blue normal male.... in this case the normals can be male or female but any other mutation that shows up will be hens and given by the father??? Right??

I think so... because the male is the only one that can be split... or maybe now we are just both confused... :D That is a very distinct possibility too...

Edited by JimmyBanks

As splat said above it is this general rule of thumb

 

any sex-linked gene will work the way splat explained it if the cock is or is split for a sex-linked and is paired to a normal hen then all the ones that visually express the gene are hens.

 

Normal is a either dominant or recessive to other genes not sex-linked.

 

 

Wow I think I actually understand that. So... one more example... I have a pair down that is a cobalt normal hen and a sky blue normal male.... in this case the normals can be male or female but any other mutation that shows up will be hens and given by the father??? Right??

 

Below is not a complete list but examples.

 

Your sex-linked genes are: - so example if your cock is or is split and is paired to any hen bird (that is not those mutations) and you get these mutation then they will be hens.

So example: you can have a Spangle Hen mated with a Spangle Cock split for Opaline and any opalines you get will be hens, in this pair you would have 100% 75% single factor spangles and 25% change of double factor spangles but if you have an opaline spangle it would be a hen. I hope that helps.

 

opaline

Lutino/Albino

cinnamen

TCB

Lacewing (which is a combo of 2 sex-linked genes combined)

 

Your Dominant or Recessive Genes (examples)

Normal can be recessive to a Spangle bird but Normal is domanant to a Recessive Pied, so I can't say Normal is a dominant gene all the time only part of the time. Recessive Pied is not always recessive it can be co-dominant so example a recessive pied and a clearflighted pied combined will give you the Dark Eyed Clear. I hope that makes sense.

 

Normal

Recessive Pied

Clearflight Pied

Spangle

Dark Eyed Clear

Fallow

Yes JB :yes: you did it :rofl: .....

 

If they are PURE NORMALS then you will get normals genetics is complicated for me as I can't store the information in my head correctly :hap: ...

 

Chrissy... you should get some violets in that last pair ...

Edited by Neat

So... one more example... I have a pair down that is a cobalt normal hen and a sky blue normal male.... in this case the normals can be male or female but any other mutation that shows up will be hens and given by the father??? Right??
I think Elly has explained it well. If any sex linked mutations show up they will be female but if you get and recessive mutations (like greywing, dilute, rec pied etc.) they could be either sex.
I think so... because the male is the only one that can be split... or maybe now we are just both confused... :rofl: That is a very distinct possibility too...
Both males and females can be split for recessive mutations. Only males can be split for sex linked mutations
Chrissy... you should get some violets in that last pair ...
Why?
Yes JB :yes: you did it :rofl: .....

 

If they are PURE NORMALS then you will get normals genetics is complicated for me as I can't store the information in my head correctly :hap: ...

 

Chrissy... you should get some violets in that last pair ...

 

 

You won't get any violets unless you have a sky violet or a cobalt violet if they are straight sky and cobalt you will get 50% cobalt & 50% sky

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okay... I think I have it now. :rofl:

 

 

I'm glad you do JB.... lol... I'm gonna study Elly's post a bit more... sometimes if I right it down I get it better.

 

Thank you all for the info.

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