So.. haven't been on in a while. Life's been crazy and just got a new puppy.

 

Anyway, I walked into a wonderful deal today from a breeder in my area. She was looking to downsize and I walked away today with 11 parakeets and 2 cocktiels for only $125!!

 

Anyway, I will get pics up of the new crew as soon as possible, but I was wondering, by discription only, if anyone can tell me what my one bird may be. It is a hen that is all yellow with light green on her rump. She seems diuted or something because there is NO black on her markings at all. The markings on her wings look green against her yellow body. The markings aren't black, grey or cinny, etc... so she looks to be yellow with green markings???? She has soft pale purple check patches with tips of white. Can anyone tell me what she is? I will get a photo up as soon as I can, but anyone want to take a guess based on the discription?

Edited November 16, 200816 yr by chrissy0705

So.. haven't been on in a while. Life's been crazy and just got a new puppy.

 

Anyway, I walked into a wonderful deal today from a breeder in my area. She was looking to downsize and I walked away today with 11 parakeets and 2 cocktiels for only $125!!

 

Anyway, I will get pics up of the new crew as soon as possible, but I was wondering, by discription only, if anyone can tell me what my one bird may be. It is a hen that is all yellow with light green on her rump. She seems diuted or something because there is NO black on her markings at all. The markings on her wings look green against her yellow body. The markings aren't black, grey or cinny, etc... so she looks to be yellow with green markings???? She has soft pale purple check patches with tips of white. Can anyone tell me what she is? I will get a photo up as soon as I can, but anyone want to take a guess based on the discription?

Might be a blackeyed yellow, or a dilute, which is also opaline which would explain the green showing in the wings. Jaz

A picture speaks a thousand words....I will wait too.

I'm going to take a guess for fun but I'll wait for a piccy to confirm

 

I would guess:

 

opaline spangle fallow(if her eyes are red)

 

OR

 

opaline spangle Texas Clearbody (if her eyes are black)

okay pics as promised... here is Wilma and her mate. He appears to be a normal green cock, but she, she I have NO clue???? I double and triple checked her eyes and her eyes are balck with an iris ring. So tell me what you think... what is she?

 

 

 

 

 

And if you wouldn't mind looking at the young ones in the following picture and tell me what they are. I think some of them are YFI cobalts but as for the white ones, I was thinking recessive pied but I'm lost on them. Also, some of the white ones have very pale purple or dark pink ceres are these male or female? The ones I think are YFI some seem to have light blue ceres with white nostils and I assume those ones are female??? Any help would be great.

 

 

 

 

The yellow/green bird you queried is a clearwing :bump:

I am going to point out that you have two NEW budgies in a very small cage with a nesting box. You never put budgies straight down to breed when they have been caught and moved and rehomed.....and these guys look too young as well. The cage is tiny and there is a nestingbox ?? :bump:

Edited November 16, 200816 yr by KAZ

The yellow/green bird you queried is a clearwing :bump:

 

 

Clearwing what? Just clear wing? So she would be a light green clearwing hen?

They are lovely looking young birds. I agree with Kaz, why is there a nest box in with them ?

Yes, she would be a light green clearwing wing and the clearwing mutation is recessive, so you need two clearwings to get visual clearwings, or if you mated her to a normal cock, their offspring would have cocks split to clearwing.

I am going to point out that you have two NEW budgies in a very small cage with a nesting box. You never put budgies straight down to breed when they have been caught and moved and rehomed.....and these guys look too young as well. The cage is tiny and there is a nestingbox ?? :bump:

okay, I knew there would be comment on this. First, the cage is a standard size cage and the nest box is mounted outside to not take up any additional room. Although not the ideal size, it's what I have and used sucessfully in the past. Second, according to the breeder I got them from she got them October 2007 at 2 months old, so they are now a bit over a year old and old enough to breed. Third, as for the nest box, yes it's there (and yes I probably should have waited but), they are bonded and according to the breeder she is in condition and they were ready to "go" but she knew she was looking to sell her and wouldn't let her down. Neither one has even paid attention to it right now and if I feel there is concern I will remove it.

Yes, she would be a light green clearwing wing and the clearwing mutation is recessive, so you need two clearwings to get visual clearwings, or if you mated her to a normal cock, their offspring would have cocks split to clearwing.

Thank you Sunnie. I appreciate the reply. Do you have a guess as to what the youngsters are?

I'm not fabulous with mutations and some of the pics are a little washed out from the flash, so I will let someone a bit more knowledgeable tell you that. I just know clearwings - as I picked one up about a year ago and fell in love with him then found him a girlfriend and they have bred this season and I am now considering making them "my thing" :bump: (well one of my things anyway lol)

Sadly I believe you were given wrong advice as the two birds in the breeding cage can not be over 12 months as they don't have iris rings :bump:

I'm not fabulous with mutations and some of the pics are a little washed out from the flash, so I will let someone a bit more knowledgeable tell you that. I just know clearwings - as I picked one up about a year ago and fell in love with him then found him a girlfriend and they have bred this season and I am now considering making them "my thing" (well one of my things anyway lol)

 

 

Sunnie, I didn't use a flash, I learned that my first week on here... That is the lighting for my aviary (spot light kind of lights). What seems to be "washed out" in the photos is actually them... they are washed out with very little color... just smears of pale/sky blue here and there on their rump, etc... and some have very little to no markings on the wings and other have some black markings. BUT... thank you for the help you did give. Thanks so much Sunnie.

 

And not to give attitude or anything, but maybe after eveyone else is done ripping me up for having two new birds in what they feel to be too small of a cage with a nesting box I might get help on the mutations???? :bump: I know you all do things differently and not everyone does things ideally the way the next would, but these birds are doing fine and I will make changes after experiencing things and seeing what works for me and what doesn't.

Edited November 17, 200816 yr by chrissy0705

Dont worry, we are not trying to rip you up

Just noticed the young birds with a nest box. the breeder who you got them from has given you the wrong advice on their age, thats all.

 

I agree with Sunnie that your hen is a clear wing - she is very pretty too :bump: . she would be around 4-7 months old

Edited November 17, 200816 yr by **Liv**

Sadly I believe you were given wrong advice as the two birds in the breeding cage can not be over 12 months as they don't have iris rings :bump:

 

 

Sorry Liv, but you are mistaken... here are pics I just took.

The first picture is the male the second is his same picture blown up close.

 

 

 

The thrid is the female, the four is her's blown up close.

 

 

 

The last is a picture of them together.

 

 

I even used a flashlight to see better to make sure I wasn't seeing things. They both have an iris ring! That being said will anyone help confirm she is a clearwing and tell me what the other might be??? I can't believe I'm getting killed like this when just asking a mutation question?

Yes, we can see the iris rings now :bump: thank you....

Sadly, even with iris rings (which come in around 4-7 months old) the ones you show are not filly developed so i still feel they are 7ish months 8 tops.

That's just my view, not trying to be a pain.... i would hate for you to run into troubles with breeding young birds.

Yes, we can see the iris rings now :bump: thank you....

Sadly, even with iris rings (which come in around 4-7 months old) the ones you show are not filly developed so i still feel they are 7ish months 8 tops.

That's just my view, not trying to be a pain.... i would hate for you to run into troubles with breeding young birds.

 

 

I guess that's my fault for trusting the breeder then? Sorry for getting snippy, but I haven't been on line in a while and the first time I come back on for help it seemed like an all out attack.

okay, so the nest box is now being taken off... (I'll do it as soon as I sigh off here). Now, it seems that the female is a clearwing the male is a normal... do you have any guesses on the youngsters in the other photos?? What might they be?

No need to apologise :bump:

We dont know the breeder you got them fr, but 90% of the time they dont keep records and would easily forget when the birds hatched. Its noones fault, just misinformation.

we don't attack - we are just trying to help - context can be easily mixed up in writing, but i reassure you we are just trying to help

No need to apologise :bump: We dont know the breeder you got them fr, but 90% of the time they dont keep records and would easily forget when the birds hatched. Its noones fault, just misinformation.we don't attack - we are just trying to help - context can be easily mixed up in writing, but i reassure you we are just trying to help

hi im going to say firstly you will get split males but all normal typeing if i have been told rightly i have a few clear wings but not sure how to use them yet so keep them till i resurch as for age darl they are only 5 to six if you ask me as the iris rings are like grey looking 7 to 8 at most best not to breed till birds are1 year as for your babys a blue rececive pied i see which will darken in colour to sky blue and a sky blue yf 2 also darken to a really nice aqua green bluenot sure on the others exept the yf2 sky blue which will turn sea foam or lime depending on the yellow through out its feathers after 3rd molt i agree the cage way to small as when chicks fledging mum and dad can not fly around so will be in bad condition after chicks leave box ..sorry truth hurts sometimesi think your chicks are only around 8 to 10 weeks at most could be wrongalso the first yf2 i refured to is the little clear wing pie the second of normal type possable from a spangle back ground

Not 100% sure but babies:

YF2 mauve female

REc pied

2x Rec pied/clearwings? not sure on these

 

next picture

Yf2 cobalt opaline female

Cobalt normal (maybe opaline) female

 

next

Rec pied clearwing (?)male

Bird behind is hard to see but I assume it would be similar to the other.... hen

 

What parents are the babies from? New ones too or did you breed them? Pretty birds you picked up, they look healthy

they are beautiful arnt they

try putting the yf2 normal with a dobble factor dom when its older the chicks will be stunning

Not 100% sure but babies:YF2 mauve femaleREc pied 2x Rec pied/clearwings? not sure on thesenext pictureYf2 cobalt opaline femaleCobalt normal (maybe opaline) femalenextRec pied clearwing (?)maleBird behind is hard to see but I assume it would be similar to the other.... henWhat parents are the babies from? New ones too or did you breed them? Pretty birds you picked up, they look healthy

I did not breed them, I got them from the breeder. I am getting a picture of the parents emailed to me today some time so when I get it I'll post it and maybe you can tell better what the babies are from seeing the pics of the parents. Thank you for this info so far.

they are beautiful arnt they try putting the yf2 normal with a dobble factor dom when its older the chicks will be stunning

Is that your guess GenericBlue... do you think my "white" birds are double factor dom pied? I was thinking that or recessive pied? That was my hope to pair some of these biabies when they got older. I can't pair any of the like ones together because they are from the same clutches so I thought maybe of the babies I got, maybe I'd luck out with even numbers of males and females.... ?? So the birds with the really pink/purple ceres you think are males and the ones with the blue/white you think are females???

Edited December 20, 200816 yr by **Liv**

These are the parents of the "yellow faced" birds....

 

 

 

These are the parents of the "white" birds...

 

 

 

Can anyone tell me now seeing the parents of the chick what my chicks are for sure?

 

I've been told so far that I possible have YF2 mauves and cobalts and recessive pied and recessive pied clearwings??? Males have the pink ceres and females have the white/blue ceres? Can anyone confirm or give their own opinion? Help would be appreciated.

 

Also, NEXT YEAR, if I pair the YF2 hens with the recessvie pied clearwings cocks what would I get? Is that a good combo?

You wont get pieds from that pairing maybe just YF's in normal and opaline, not taking into account any other genes. You wont know unless you try!

That rec pied cock (parent) is stunning