Hi there, just a small question about my lutino Zaffie. Is it normal that her yellow colouring is not even all over? Could it be the yf2 from her mother that's making it uneven? On her wings I can even see dark gold spangle like markings. I've included photos but not sure if I'm seeing things or not. I've seen a few lutinos but none of them are splotchy like Zaffie. Will her colouring get better or is she just an odd job example of a lutino? Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Even on her face she has dark gold patches.

I hope the photos show what I 'm talking about. Gonna feel a might stupid if I'm the only one who can see it.

Assuming she has red eyes. She is a type 2 yellow face albino, usually referred to as a creamino

Assuming she has red eyes. She is a type 2 yellow face albino, usually referred to as a creamino

 

 

SPECIAL :star: A creamino sounds lovely!

Yep, definitely has red eyes. Had to go out and double check, but yes! Thank you so much, I read about creaminos not long after joining the forum and thought wow I want one. And guess what...I got one!!! And I didn't even know it.

Now I'm very happy :star:

Can I ask what her parents are?

Neville would you say yellow face or goldenface?

If that is Dad in the background photo he is a Golden face .. Well looks it from here

she is definitely a creamino

Can I ask what her parents are?

 

Those were my thoughts too what are the parents if you know.

She is a very pretty girl.

 

If she is a YF2 she could also be a double factor.

Edited November 3, 200816 yr by Elly

Hi, this is dad (greywing)...

and this is mum (yf2 opaline spangle)...

Neville would you say yellow face or goldenface?

Don't know, but the yellow is very bright

 

If she is a YF2 she could also be a double factor.

To be a double factor type 2 yellow face both parents would have to be T2 yellow face. Usually double factor T2 yellow face birds show less yellow than single factors

Edited November 3, 200816 yr by Neville

Thats right I forgot that Neville, I think Double and Dark but that is not true. You know that dad almost looks like the mom and a YF when you look down by the legs but we are sure it is a green and not a blue series.

Hi there...Elly what do you mean when you say dad looks like mum near legs? I'm sorry I know you're talking genetics here and I know nothing, but I can't see what you're looking at. They weren't the same colouring and they had different coloured feet so could you explain what you mean please.

If it's too much to go into don't worry about it. I just want to understand a little better.

Is Zaffie a strange combination from these two?

And to get Zaffie does that mean the father is split for ino? I still don't understand anything about genetics, but hopefully I'll get there. I love reading posts about genetics it's quite fascinating what you all know.

And is being yf or goldenface going to make a difference with her mutation?

Thanks

Your right to get an ino female the dad was split.

My question was more that they feathers down by her legs are they green or bluish green like the dad too.

 

YF or GF is an added mutation to what she is if she didn't have the yellow she would be completely white since she is a blue based bird. Which means either both your birds are blues or the dad is carrying the blue gene. You have to have 2 blue genes to have a blue based bird and ino is a blue based bird and the ino gene erases the blue from the bird leaving white. The other variety is lutino which is all yellow and the green is erased from the ino gene.

I think... and she'll correct me if I'm wrong, she was talking about the green just above his feet... but as I've just seen she already posted that :question: so I'll just say you've got a very cute bird!

 

Further question about creamino's.... they are always spoken of as albino's with the yellow (cream) markings... is it possible to get a lutino with white ( looking cream) markings?

Edited November 4, 200816 yr by Neat

I see what you mean now. Oscar (the dad) I can't remember what his feathers were like ( I can't check as he escaped a while ago, never to return). But Billie (the mum) her feathers near her legs are similar to her body colour maybe a blue tinge to them. I've included current photo, only taken minutes ago.

Hopefully this is what you want to know and helps clarify things. :question:

 

Well we know the mum is a YF but my question is but you don't have the dad anymore (sorry to hear that he got out) is if he is a YF too.

Well Elly, when I first joined the forum and put my birds in to find out their mutation I was told Oscar was a greywing only, so I don't know if he is anything else. He obviously has a yellow face but I don't know if that is anything to do with being a yellowface. It would be interesting to know. Knowing if he is or isn't will give you what information?

:question:

So are you saying that Oscar is a blue bird with a yellowface and it turned him green? That was my question if he is a Yellowface. :question:

He was green when I bought him and he was over 12 months of age. Unfortunately I know nothing about his heritage. The only part I remember seeing to be blue was his tail feathers and they were a darkish blue.

So I suppose we'll never know.

Thanks for your help

could she be a goldenface lutino? there is just so much yellow

Or the YF2 is moulting through darker as she is replacing those feathers. IF thats the case she should even up colour-wise

Further question about creamino's.... they are always spoken of as albino's with the yellow (cream) markings... is it possible to get a lutino with white ( looking cream) markings?

Not possible yet, but who knows what the future holds