This pair had 5 chicks - Mum is a grey cinnamon opaline and Dad is a cobalt normal.

 

Mum looking a little worse for wear.

 

Chick 1 - Cinnamon wings

 

 

Chick 2 - Cobalt Opaline

 

 

 

Chick 3 - Skyblue Opaline

 

 

 

Chick 4 - Grey opaline

 

 

Chick 5 - same as Mum, Grey cinnamon opaline

 

Eldest chick looks YF cinnamon grey spangle Weird. Cabinet bred or aviary ?

Cabinet.

Any "friendly" spangle boys in the aviary before mum went into the cabinet ?

She was in a holding cage with all hens for 4 weeks before I put her in with the cock?

 

It is a mystery.

Any spangle boys in the aviary ?

There is one blue opaline spangle that is 8 years old but that's the only one.

Interesting

 

Foster any eggs you forgot about ?

 

Any aviary eggs get put in the nestbox ?

Edited November 1, 200816 yr by KAZ

This is a chick she had from early this year with a Lutino cock?

 

Maybe she is carrying clearwing and the cinnamon on the newer chick makes it look defferent ?

They're so beautiful! I can't help you with what they are lol but I enjoyed seeing them. Interesting you didn't seem to get any normals out of the batch, seeing dad is normal. You got such a nice mixture there!

 

 

LOL Kaz, solving a mystery hey?

Edited November 1, 200816 yr by krosp

The 1st chick doesn't look spangle to me. I'd say it could be yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

The hen and the 5th chick don't show opaline. They are both grey cinnamons

 

The cock bird must be split for opaline and cinnamon, and both must be split for one of the dilute mutations

Edited November 1, 200816 yr by Neville

I dont know and cant even help, they all lok very nice to me!

Oh Denise ... What beautiful babies

Oh Denise... I can't help you but had to pop in and say how adorable they are . You must be so proud!!! (P.S. I also hope you're feeling much better )

The 1st chick doesn't look spangle to me. I'd say it could be yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

The hen and the 5th chick don't show opaline. They are both grey cinnamons

 

The cock bird must be split for opaline and cinnamon, and both must be split for one of the dilute mutations

 

I agree they and they are beautiful, congrats.

Gorgeous babies, nice batch of hens too. Gotta love getting hens if you need them.

Where'd the yellowface come from?? :rofl: bit random!!

The 1st chick doesn't look spangle to me. I'd say it could be yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

The hen and the 5th chick don't show opaline. They are both grey cinnamons

 

The cock bird must be split for opaline and cinnamon, and both must be split for one of the dilute mutations

 

I agree with Neville!!!!!

The 1st chick doesn't look spangle to me. I'd say it could be yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

The hen and the 5th chick don't show opaline. They are both grey cinnamons

 

The cock bird must be split for opaline and cinnamon, and both must be split for one of the dilute mutations

 

 

Yes the cock is split for opaline and cinnamon - his last clutch has 4 opalines and 1 cinnamon.

 

 

Oh Denise... I can't help you but had to pop in and say how adorable they are . You must be so proud!!! (P.S. I also hope you're feeling much better )

 

 

I am feeling a little better thanks Maesie especially after I got the full arm length plaster off yesterday, now I just have an arm sling for 2 weeks and then they will review it again and hopefully I won't need an operation after all

 

 

Thanks to everyone for all the lovely comments. We are very pleased with the mixed assortment of these chicks. :yes:

What georgous little gems, I can't wait till next breeding season when I'll have some more pairs up so I can get a nice variety of colours. And the excitment of not always knowing what you'll get. Just normal light greens, 1 normal blue and a couple of Opaline greys this breeding season. Although I do have 1 last chance with a pair whose eggs are about to hatch which hopefully may be yellowface not sure what body colour yet.

This is an updated photo of the oldest chick - still a mystery. He had plum eyes when he hatched - does that mean Cinnamon?

 

He has been named Stone.

 

Edited November 11, 200816 yr by Denise

At first glance the flight feathers look spangle but if you just at the top half of the bird it doesn't look spangle at all. I still think that it is a yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

At first glance the flight feathers look spangle but if you just at the top half of the bird it doesn't look spangle at all. I still think that it is a yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

Here are the parents: Mum is a grey cinnamon opaline and Dad is a cobalt normal.

 

If he is a male, then dad is also split to cinnamon that is the only way you can get a visual male cinnamon out of this clutch because mum give only 1 cinnamon gene to her male chicks (which make them split not visual unless they get one from dad too).

 

BUT you know the chick looks kind of opaline too? Am I right on this? If so the dad would have to be split for opaline because it works just like the cinnamon gene.

 

Could that be? If so what is the % that the dad is carrying both sex-linked genes too - could be?

 

He can't be spangle, as Neville said because neither parents are spangle .

 

Both parents are carrying the dilute gene, good to know and put in your records

Edited November 11, 200816 yr by Elly

At first glance the flight feathers look spangle but if you just at the top half of the bird it doesn't look spangle at all. I still think that it is a yellow face grey cinnamon dilute

 

Here are the parents: Mum is a grey cinnamon opaline and Dad is a cobalt normal.

 

If he is a male, then dad is also split to cinnamon that is the only way you can get a visual male cinnamon out of this clutch because mum give only 1 cinnamon gene to her male chicks (which make them split not visual unless they get one from dad too).

 

BUT you know the chick looks kind of opaline too? Am I right on this? If so the dad would have to be split for opaline because it works just like the cinnamon gene.

 

Could that be? If so what is the % that the dad is carrying both sex-linked genes too - could be?

 

He can't be spangle, as Neville said because neither parents are spangle .

 

Both parents are carrying the dilute gene, good to know and put in your records

 

 

The dad carries both cinnamon and opaline, because there are cinnamons and opalines in those chicks I have a cock split for those two, too.

 

I think that yellowface thingy is a bit more complicated . Neither of the parents show this dominant gene and if they have it double (type I) it would show as a white face. BUT if one of them is a double factor yellow face type I then shouldn't all the chicks be yellow faces?

 

And to me it does look kinda spangle, too. Really odd case! But so beautiful chicks!!!

If one is a double factor YF1 and the other is a true white face, they yes all the chicks would be YF1 single factors. All the chicks don't have yellow faces?

 

The only way you can get a Cinnamon Opaline Male from this pairing is if the dad is split to opaline and cinnamon.

 

It is not very common to see visual males in the cinnamon opaline because of the sex-linking, more common in females.

 

You have a lot of hidden genes there in the cock

 

If his wing marking are brown then yes he is a cinnamon that would explain the plum eyes in the beginning.

 

I agree with Neville, on the mutation.