My normal Green pair have a clutch of 4 chicks and I'm wondering what I'll get out of them

Here are the parents

George Jr(The Dad)

Lumina(The Mom)

This Is an old photo of her.

 

Grandma Gina

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/s...odie/Gina-2.jpg

Grandpa George

 

Bailey(The Brother of the father George Jr)

All of George Jr's brothers were Blue. And Lumina's claws are black

 

And Finaly the chicks

Edited October 20, 200816 yr by Elly
one photo oversized, turne to link

You will have 100% Normal Greens unless they are BOTH split for blue.

Of course there are surprises and sex-linked genes. Grandma to George I assume was an opaline so that means that George is split to opaline so you do have a chance of Opaline babies and they would all be females.

The grandma is also a cinnamon the picture just does'nt show it well

And she's a yellow face type 2 opaline cinnamon, the grandpa is a normal show size green with a pied spot on the back of his head.

The grandpa would be a dominant pied if he has a large spot on the back of his head if it is very small spot then he is split to recessive pied but a large spot denote that he is not a normal but a Dominant Pied. He is also split for blue because you said that they had blue babies in the clutch. So this means that their off-spring if they are Green are also split for blue. So the dad is split to blue and the mom is blue so you have a 50% chance of greens split to blue and 50% chance of blues.

 

The grandma would have carried the cinnamon and opaline gene to all her male off-spring and they would be split for cinnamon and opaline. So if the grandma is the grandma to the male bird then he is split for cinnamon and opaline and any cinnamon and opaline off-spring he would have would be females.

 

Most likey all the blues you have will have yellow faces too.

 

(I hope I haven't confused myself lol and this is right, I am sure I will be correct if not )

Edited October 20, 200816 yr by Elly

The grandpa would be a dominant pied if he has a large spot on the back of his head if it is very small spot then he is split to recessive pied but a large spot denote that he is not a normal but a Dominant Pied. He is also split for blue because you said that they had blue babies in the clutch. So this means that their off-spring if they are Green are also split for blue. So the dad is split to blue and the mom is blue so you have a 50% chance of greens split to blue and 50% chance of blues.

 

The grandma would have carried the cinnamon and opaline gene to all her male off-spring and they would be split for cinnamon and opaline. So if the grandma is the grandma to the male bird then he is split for cinnamon and opaline and any cinnamon and opaline off-spring he would have would be females.

 

Most likey all the blues you have will have yellow faces too.

 

(I hope I haven't confused myself lol and this is right, I am sure I will be correct if not )

 

 

Nope I understand

All the babies in the clutch were blue but George Jr

His spot is like Merlin's(Merlin does have a spot right.....?)

Edited October 20, 200816 yr by Jodie

Yep Merlin has the big spot too .

with a normal x dominant pied crossing there is a 50% normal and 50% dominant pied

green split to blue x blue there is 50% Green split to blue and 50% blues

Yep Merlin has the big spot too .

with a normal x dominant pied crossing there is a 50% normal and 50% dominant pied

green split to blue x blue there is 50% Green split to blue and 50% blues

 

 

yeah that bit cofused me :bliss:

George must be split for opaline, cinnamon and blue. There is also a 50% chance that he is carrying yellow face. The spot on the back of George's father's head means that he is split for recessive pied (It can't be dominant pied regardless of the size of the spot, because he is obviously not a dominant and it can't be carried in any lesser form). So there is a 50% chance that George has inherited the recessive pied gene.

 

So you should get normal green males and females

And some opaline, cinnamon & opaline cinnamon females

And if Lumina happens to be split for blue you could get some blues

If Lumina is split for recessive pied and George has inherited the gene you could also get recessive pieds

If there are any blues then some yellow faces are possible if George is carrying yellow face

Edited October 21, 200816 yr by Neville

Wow .. Elly ....

 

I understood it all ... And I think that you said it perfectly so that other members can to ... Thank you , genes confuse me to

Thanks Neat.

 

Neville, I always understand the large spot (patch) on the back of the head was a dominant pied not recessive. Only the small spot was recessive.

Neville, I always understand the large spot (patch) on the back of the head was a dominant pied not recessive. Only the small spot was recessive.

All pieds have a clear patch on the back of their heads of varying sizes but a spot on the back of a normal bird's head can only be recessive pied. If a bird is dominant pied it would have the other characteristics of a dominant pied as well. The bird in this picture, now adult and mated to a recessive pied, regularly produces 50% recessive pied chicks

okay, so I have learned something and I think others too Neville that Merlin is NOT a dominant pied but a Normal split to recessive pied, any normal with any spot on the back of the head denotes that?

The second baby has pink eyes whys that??

And the oldest baby has a black beak whys that??

black beaks is very common in young chicks nothing to worry about

 

red eyes can indicate an ino/lutino which if it is then the dad is split for lutino and therefore this baby would be a hen, because it is a sex-linked gene.

black beaks is very common in young chicks nothing to worry about

 

red eyes can indicate an ino/lutino which if it is then the dad is split for lutino and therefore this baby would be a hen, because it is a sex-linked gene.

 

 

The dad is slit cinnamon and opaline and blue, YFtype 2 that I know

That was my next thing, it probably is a cinnamon baby then and the eyes will turn darker in a week I believe, and it would still be a hen.

That was my next thing, it probably is a cinnamon baby then and the eyes will turn darker in a week I believe, and it would still be a hen.

 

Good I needed a girl.

She's a gourgess girl at that,

look forward to seeing them feathering up