Posted October 19, 200816 yr Hi We will welcome your opinions on us getting another budgie. We currently have a little girl (Benny) who we believe is about 6 - 7 months old. But, we are still not getting anywhere in taming her. She is very cautious of both of us, but eats/drinks and sings away happily. Everytime we put our hand near the cage or even just walk past, she still runs to the back to be safe. We where thinking if we were to get another hand reared baby budgie, it might help to bring her out of her shell also....What do you guys think? I did read in the Budgie FAQ's about this and saw that it may go pear shaped and they may just bond together....or may not bond at all - which is a chance we would have to take...plus the quarantine part also Could you please in you expertise, let us know if maybe its too late to introduce another? Should we go for same sex, as we are not in a position to breed and that would be unfair ?? If the new budge is a baby and tame, will this more so help with Benny than not?? Sorry for all the question, but we want to do the right thing here and your web page is the best for these kind of answers to come too Look forward to all opinions given. Thanks in advance Kim and Benny
October 19, 200816 yr The reality is that there is about a 95% chance that they will simply bond to each other. If you aren't fussed whether Benny is tame go for it but the reality is that you will have two budgies that will be each others friends. It is more likely that Benny's nervousness will cause the other to be less confident around you.
October 19, 200816 yr I agree with MB. It could work, but chances are they are going to bond to each other. If you want 2 hand trained budgies, you need to get both of them seperately, raise them seperately, them intorduce them to each other after they are bonded to you
October 19, 200816 yr I agree and from first hand experience Both my Hand tames ones which were Housed together are no longer Tamed...... With getting another bird I would have to say get a male .... only because 2 Females togther is asking for trouble ... They get kinda like us females ... Moody and territorial ... You don't need to breed if you have a male and female ... just make sure that there is nothing that they will consider a Nest in their cage .... Elly is fantastic with taming information maybe wait for her reply or PM her ...... How are you "taming" your little one now ???? Edited October 19, 200816 yr by KAZ
October 19, 200816 yr Author Hi again We are trying to tame her. But we are taking it very slowly. We ( my partner and I) take it turns every night for 10 - 15 mins each time - every second night I do it and so on. My partner can get his hand closer than I can I can only hold mine near the door, but Pete can put his hand on the perch she is sitting on. But she doesn't move and watch's his every move...haha.....with me, she goes to sleep...lol, I think that she's thinking if Mum thinks I'm asleep then she will go away and leave me alone...hahahahahaha Mind you - she was just starting to come out of her shell and then we went oversea's for 5 weeks and she stayed with my parents in August/Sept. So we are kinda starting from scratch again. But we are trying definitely..... :parrot:
October 19, 200816 yr I have to tell you that 10-15 minutes a day will get you very slow results you read that that is all budgies need but that is untrue. Budgies are a wild animal they are not domesticated like dogs and cats. They do need a lot more contact then 15 minutes a day. I would not get another budgie then you will have 2 untamed budgie that will not respond to you and then you will be even more disappointed then you are now. Let me ask you what was your expectation when you purchased your budgie? Many people have different expections a really tame one, semi-tame, not tame at all etc... Tell me that and I can tell you what you need to do to accomplish what you want out of your budgie.
October 19, 200816 yr Good luck with your budgie taming and future decisions. A tame baby budgie is generally easy to continue training as long as it is done away from flighty distractions. If you put a tame baby with a flighty bird, the baby will learn that there is something to fear, unfortunately, not the other way around. I agree with all the advice so far give and as Elly said, you really need to spend much more time than 10 to 15 minutes a day. If your baby is really flighty, I would even sit with a small cage on my lap while watching tv and just have my hand resting in the cage for as long as you can. The more time the better..........again good luck
October 19, 200816 yr Author Thanks again - We were only doing that small amount of time, as we didn't want to stress her out to much, especially while she was moulting at the same time. But we are more than happy to do it for longer - any suggestion on how much longer we should? Our last budge (without trying to compare) was very tame, he ate tea with us, flew around the house as if he owned it, sat on our shoulders, ran around on the floor etc, and although Benny we know will not be exactly the same, we would love if we can get her to be trusting and land on our shoulders, waddle around unperturbed, fly around as comfortably as our Lukey did. Benny did come out of her cage about two weeks ago and flew around for about 2 hours, but mainly stayed ontop of the curtain rails - so we couldn't reach her - but we let her make her own way back to the cage, as opposed to trying to catch her and upset her that here comes that hand to grab me again....hope that makes sense. We would just love her to be trusting I s'pose is the word we are looking for. I don't believe that its going to be her nature anyway to be lovey dovey, as our last budgie was, but we would love her to be running around as if she owns the house a little....just to be okay that we are going to be walking around, or sit with us while watching tv on our shoulders etc Cheers Kim
October 19, 200816 yr Have you considered clipping her wings just once while you are doing the intitial training? You can allow them to grow back in the long run but it would make a huge difference during this difficult period
October 19, 200816 yr Night time is not a good time to tame budgies. It is not their time to be sociable and friendly, it is their time to find a safe little nook to sleep in with no predators or disturbances. My Cosmo is pretty friendly to us during the day, but woe to us if we try to get him out of his cage at night haha. It's unfortunate that it's probably not really possible to get time during the day if you work, but early morning is fine even if it's not really light yet it's probably better than night time. Try and spend more time with her on weekends or days off if you can.
October 19, 200816 yr I wrote up an article on how I tamed Pretty he was a tough cookie considering I got him right around the 3 month mark right out of pet store, in the FAQ's under Budgie Behavior take a look and read my article. Every budgie is different. Sunnie gave excellent advice if you can have your budgie with you in a cage that you can move around all the time with you that is perfect, I did that with Pretty. If you work all day then the 3 hours you have at night before bed or whatever you can do spend time with her watching T.V. etc.. Budgie taming is not about touching they are not like dogs, it is about gaining trusting and bonding through your voice, having your face by the cage and talking quietly, if your budgie likes millet spray then put your hand in the cage with some millet :sadsorry:. MB also gave a good point about clipping. Both of mine were clipped it helped with the taming process big time and then after that they have been flighted since. Again, go read the article in the FAQ I know it will help you. It took me 9 months to really bond with Pretty so it can take awhile but trust me getting another budgie will make it complicated and harder if you want another one wait until you have this one tamed the way you like. Keep us updated and if you have more questions let us know.
October 20, 200816 yr Author thanks all for your suggestions. We did have her wings clipped back in July, so I dont really want to do this again But now that you have mentioned it, I might reconsider. Will definitely try in the mornings before work and just after - say around 5ish at the latest. Never thought of trying in the morning. We will not get another one, as I agree, it could hinder more than assist I will endeavor to do our best 100% efforts Appreciate all you help once again.....thank goodness you here to help us one owners- Yay Ciao for now Kim, Pete and Benny Edited October 20, 200816 yr by Neat typo
October 20, 200816 yr Great advice given here mate ... I am going to add ... If she is moulting she will be like Us females with PMS So I am sure that if there are no improvements . don't be dampened by this ... After she as finished the moult ... I am sure that is when you will see the results of your dedication ... Enjoy mate
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