These chicks are from the same pair I have put another thread here. The father is obviously a split cinnamon and he has produced a pied which seems to be something in between a normal and a cinnamon. Does anyone have any experience of such colours?

 

Here's she with a blue opaline. The colour is exactly the same shade as my recessive pied has.

 

And here with a cinnamon and a green opaline - she looks like a mix of those two

Very pretty what is your exact question though? I think I am missing it. Also I don't see any opaline in your chicks. What are bothe the parents to you have pictures of them.

Edited October 13, 200816 yr by Elly

These chicks are from the same pair I have put another thread here. The father is obviously a split cinnamon and he has produced a pied which seems to be something in between a normal and a cinnamon. Does anyone have any experience of such colours?

I presume you mean the shade of the markings. There seems to be quite a bit of variation between birds some have very black markings and others are slightly brown but not as brown as cinnamons. I have one that looked brown in some lights but when I bred from him he just produced normals

What colour eyes does this chick have ?

Mum looks light green dom pied cinny or cinny wing to me ... She must be split to blue ... hence the sky blue babies

 

Correct me if I am wrong here

Edited October 14, 200816 yr by Neat

The one that you say is pied doesn't have the pied mark on the back of the head, are you sure it is not a yellow face blue because the yellow can run right through and make the wings and head yellow or lemon.Just having a guessor it good be a yellow face sky blue pied

I must have been really vague in my sayings!! Sorry about that!

 

So the thing I was wondering was the colour of the wing markings on that skyblue pied chick in the middle of the second picture. She hasn't got exactly black feathers nor are they brown. Neither are the greywing grey. Neville got me right. I also think she's just a normal coloured pied, though even those pied markings are a little funny.

 

And there are actually two opalines Elly, from first picture to the second left to right: a skyblue opaline yf, skyblue pied yf. And the second picture: grey cinnamon, blue opaline peaking, the same skyblue pied yf, and a light green pied opaline.

 

The mom is a greygreen opaline and dad looking like a skyblue DF dominant pied greywing yf, but apparently is a SF pied greywing yf split opaline and cinnamon. You can see him in this thread http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=22393 Where I was wondering the fact that a bird looking like that is actually a SF dominant pied.

 

And the eyes of this baby are black kaz The cinnamon one has still slightly red eyes - very dark, though she's already over a month old, but then again, so does the fatherm and he's 3 years old.

 

I hope I wrote it down better this time!

Edited October 14, 200816 yr by falki

I have nothing of any clarification to add, but I just wanted to say I think theyre adorable

you may also find that it darkens up after the first moult and becomes more like the one on the right...

you may also find that it darkens up after the first moult and becomes more like the one on the right...

 

That's true

I read in an old budgie mag. That there are Cinnamon Budgies and there are Brown budgies .... The Brown are darken that the color of the cinny, But lighter then the colour of the Normal Black markings.....

 

So i have no idea, It could be that it has more melamine ( someone correct me on that spelling please ) and that is why it is darker ...

 

 

But that is one stunning clutch there

Edited October 23, 200816 yr by Neat
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There is a mutation called brown wing that has darker markings than a cinnamon, but I believe that it is very rare

Edited October 14, 200816 yr by Neville

Here is the information on the brownwing budgie from Gypsyraven's Website from the FAQ's.

 

Brownwing The Brownwing appears visually as a Cinnamon except for the markings being deep dull dark brown, not Cinnamon light brown. It has a full, undiluted body color (whereas the Cinnamon causes a dilution). Also on hatching chicks do not have red eyes - their eyes, throughout life are dark with a white iris. This mutation is recessive in inheritance (unlike the cinnamon sex-linked genetics). It is thought to have been a lost mutation, however a few sources throughout the years have seen this variety emerge and are struggling to revive it.

 

I have read that this mutation disappeared in the 40's and hasn't really been seen since. The only other infomatin I could scrap up in a short amount of time that I have this morning was in German.

Here's a link to a picture http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr79/ti...et/DSC03732.jpg

 

Of those babies now. The smallest one is missing, still in the nest with the parents gathering some more weight. So, when I first thought the father was a double factor dominant pied (iris ring, only little colour and markings) and all the babies should have been dom pieds there turned out to be: 1 dom pied 3 recessive pieds 1 normal and 1 cinnamon 1 greywing and normals!! :yes: What a bunch!! That cinnamon girl though has dark red eyes still, she's over a month old.

 

Those odd brownish markings were because of the recessive pied gene, also the cinnamon seems to be a recessive pied as well as the smallest of the chicks.

 

The mother of the clutch was a greygreen opaline, now obviously split recessive too!! The father is either a dominant pied and recessive pied both visual in him, or only split recessive and rather strange looking dominant pied.

which one is split to cinny though

which one is split to cinny though

 

Well, I didn't say anything about a split cinnamon, but the father must be, because on of the chicks is a cinnamon. And I guess that also makes half the boys split cinnamons, but you can't tell which ones...