From his mouth

Any other symptoms? Any thing else you can tell us?

He seems to have stopped he has gone to sleep on his perch but were all not sure wether he will last the night. Is there any explaination to the bubbles and is there another better way to administer his meds if he survives tonight.

Any other symptoms? Any thing else you can tell us?

Well just the normal ones:His bottom is clean though,Hes fluffed up but not as much as last timeHes eating I haven't seen him drink though since this morning

He seems to have stopped he has gone to sleep on his perch but were all not sure Werther he will last the night. Is there any explaination to the bubbles and is there another better way to administer his meds if he survives tonight.

 

My 'guess' is the medication went down the wrong way. The only way to avoid this would be to administer them via crop needle, but you'd need someone to show you how to do this. Good luck mate.

What mae said

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Will he get over the med going down the wrong way? Its never happened before, but i did administer it on different side as he was playing up while I was trying to do it. What about just putting a bit on his beak would he maybe take it that way???

 

Its coming from his Mouth

 

 

Hes started up again (bubbles). Hes still eating a bit. Who will be able to show me how to crop needle the med??? an avian vet?? Is it like us when somethign goes down the wrong way we cough??

Edited October 5, 200816 yr by Cara

Yes, you need your avian vet to teach you how to do it and you need to buy a crop needle and syringe

 

If blue has aspirated on his medication (got it into his lungs) then its not good - if he had a little get into his windpipe, but not in his lungs, then he will cough and splutter for a while, but should clear up soon.

Often medication going down the wrong way means he breathed in when you were giving it too him, and it went into his lungs instead of his crop... hence bubbles. It's a tough one. I'm not experienced in this so I'll have to leave the rest up to the others. My only suggestion (other a lesson in crop needles) would be to try and give him a little bit at a time... try not to over do it as that's when they get stressed and breath in. Good Luck and I hope others can help you more. Also, next time you're at the vet, get them to show you how to use a crop needle. A great asset to learn.

Often medication going down the wrong way means he breathed in when you were giving it too him, and it went into his lungs instead of his crop... hence bubbles. It's a tough one. I'm not experienced in this so I'll have to leave the rest up to the others. My only suggestion (other a lesson in crop needles) would be to try and give him a little bit at a time... try not to over do it as that's when they get stressed and breath in. Good Luck and I hope others can help you more. Also, next time you're at the vet, get them to show you how to use a crop needle. A great asset to learn.

The thing is I gave him his meds almost 4 hours ago and its only started happening in the past 1 or so.

Yes, you need your avian vet to teach you how to do it and you need to buy a crop needle and syringeIf blue has aspirated on his medication (got it into his lungs) then its not good - if he had a little get into his windpipe, but not in his lungs, then he will cough and splutter for a while, but should clear up soon.

But would he get over it??

If its in his lungs he could get pneumonia

If its in his lungs he could get pneumonia

 

 

When would that kick in? and wouldn't the baytil and other medications help that if i can learn how to crop needle.

 

Can they die from it being in there lungs?

Sorry, i dont know... I am not a vet - Keep him warm and quiet and get him back to your vet tomorrow.

I agree with LIV. And when you take him back to vet... tell them everything that has been going on, even if you don't think it matters. They can't help him if they don't know. Good Luck.

Sounds like you gave the meds on the wrong side... Best to take the bird down tomorrow morning !

Don't make an appointment just turn up and tell them that they need to see him

.. Like the others have said TELL THE VET EVERYTHING FROM THE MINUTE YO GOT HOME AND HE WAS SICK...

Right a list if you have to there could be an important bit of info that the vet needs ...

how is he doing right now, is he still seem like he aspirated his medicine?

Well he survived the night, hes still blowing bubbles and we have rung the vet but the avian vet will ring me this morning when she gets in. Hes a lot brighter though this morning, hes been out and about doesn't like going back into his cage, hes climbing around the cage and I've seen him playing with his swing. So the sooner the vet rings the better.

 

For now the only medication hes having is the stuff in his water.

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Hes acting wierd. Hes climbing around his cage and clinging onto the roof and the sides and then dangling himself by his beak and then he finds another spot and dangles himself for a bit then he stops for about 15 minutes and starts all over again. Has anyones budgies done this before?? Is it normal?

It may sound silly but when my birds seem as though they have liquid in their airways Like with new born pups and kittens etc. I hold them firm between my hands and give a little flick to fling a bit out and wipe them dry again, although it's dangerous if you do it wrong you could snap their neck, or burst something if you flick them too hard or something silly like that...

Well im not game to try that, but is there any explenation to the dangling thing or is he just getting a it hypo being in a small cage. Hes normally in a big cage and he normally able to fly round in the morning but he hasn't been allowed to do that. Trying to get him to rest up a bit. Silly bird.

Some birds do it from stress some do it as a form of play... His is probably stress related... I don't know if specifically not allowing him exercise will do him any good. I'm an asthmatic and regularily get fluids on my lungs, to try to aid in removing that I keep as active as possible they even used to put me on a tramp to bring it up. When in hospital when I had pneumonia they gave me physio and wanted me active also. Excercise will constrict his lungs and make him sneeze/cough which should aid in bringing it up... Forced exercise probably isn't good though.

Well I haven't forced him to fly but when i had him out he tried to fly and couple of times to get to Molly. If he is stressed should I completly cover him and put him in a dark room to help him over the stress. Will the dangling thing be of any help to him to bring some of the stuff up. He dangles and then stops and shakes his head when there is some bubbles and then he starts dangling again. So he could be trying to get rid of it.

 

Hes not fluffed up anymore and he gets really annoyed with the lamp and tried to bite at it so weve turned it of. Do you think i should cover it over? and if so should i remove the food and water like the vet told me to do when he was stressed after the vet visit?

Sounds like he is feeling a bit better which means the medications are working :question:

Still take him back to the vet though as the fluid on his lungs will make him sick again - so best to catch it before it becomes infected.

awesome thats good to hear.

 

What should I do about his stress level?

What should I do about his stress level?

 

Have you a bigger cage ?

No I don't I only have the two cages. The hospital cage and the cage Molly's in.Hes quietened down, I put a cover over him to darken his cage and hes now asleep on his perch. So hopefully all is well