January 13, 201015 yr I have had great success in the past placing the bird in a show cage and spraying with Pea Beau{not sure of spelling] I also place one drop of Ivermec on the back of every bird in the flight twice yearly. Best of luck Clearwing i was told pee- bo... lol i cant spell it either was good i thought it would kill the bird but aparently not i wont tell the story i got told but i recon its got to be safe after hearing it... lol i was also told glean 20 in aviary to keep at bay un wanted germs :raincloud:
January 13, 201015 yr I was reading up on diseases in Budgies the other night, trying to understand more about them and came across Splat's thread about them. She mentioned using Pea Beau/Mortein for airsack mites http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....344&hl=lice It helped me lots as it was all on the one page, symptoms and treatments for quite a few things. Sorry nothing is working for you Kaz, what a bummer I bet your bird is still stunning though
February 13, 201015 yr Some pics of the damage feather mite can cause They are quill mites arent they Matt ? Not the average feather mite ? Quill mites can interupt the blood supply to a feather shaft causing it to die along the length of it.
March 11, 201015 yr Kaz, have you used Ivomec? It is the best Budgie drench I've ever found, one drop on the back of the head and no more internal or external parasites. Clearwing Yeah. I used the spot on the first time, then also ran some along the affected feathers. Gave it a few days, then pulled the affected flights out and burnt them. More time in the quarantine cage. New feathers grew in and have quill mites still. Drenched in A.I.L. as per vets advice, also gave S76 in water as per vets advice. I now wait to see if we have won the battle. Have we won the battle against Feather quill mites ??? Yes we have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Birds went to the vet for tests and got the all clear today .......................treatment that finally worked ? More A.I.L drenchings and S76 in their water Edited March 11, 201015 yr by KAZ
October 6, 201014 yr Do you guys remember our friend Al@n's "experiment with Frontline????? Fipronil being the active - apparently extremely effective against mites........... I wonder if it would be any good for quill mites considering how hard they are to get rid of even with Ivermectin........ just thoughts.
October 6, 201014 yr Not that I am an expert at sicknesses, but what about commercial brands of mite and lice spray? My bird had them (I think... Little brown squirmy things) and I sprayed him with Avian Science I think it was called, and they were gone within a week? I literally had to drench him haha. when you talk about frontline nubbly, do you mean the stuff we use on cats and dogs?
October 6, 201014 yr See this is where we all get confused I think. Feather LICE can be seen with the naked eye and sit in between the veins of the feathers and can be easily controlled with AIL, lice and mite spray or ivermectin spot on. Blood MITES can also be seen with the naked eye, spend the majority of their time off the bird hiding in cracks and joins in cabinets, they suck blood and can also be easily controlled by ivermectin and surface spraying with a pyrethroid based spray. Feather QUILL MITES are not visable with the naked eye, must be viewed under a microscope and spend all their life WITHIN the QUILL of birds feathers, feeding on body fluids. Now one would assume that because they feed on body fluids that they would also be easily controlled by ivermectin either spot on or in water but as Kaz found out, they seem more difficult to control than other mites and lice on budgies. Now IF Frontline (yes the Dog and Cat product, also a agricultural chemical used for crop production amoungst other registered uses!) IS such a good mite treatment as it seems and IF it's safe for bird use (haven't found anything other than poultry treatment mind you), then it might be a possible option for these difficult to control critters. Needless to say that you need to be a vet to use or prescribe an unregistered product just like we all do with ivermectin which is not registered for use on budgerigars ALSO I have no idea of the LD50 (poisonous-ness-ness) of fipronil to budgies, nor do I know the effective dose rate for feather QUILL MITE or even if it IS effective. I was just having a public muse about the subject....... Edited October 6, 201014 yr by nubbly5
October 6, 201014 yr I cannot find vetafarm S76 in shops anywhere. Does anyone know a website where I can buy it online? I cannot even find it on the vetafarm website. Does it use another name?
October 6, 201014 yr I'd imagine because S76 is maybe a vet script only product you would have to buy it through a vet or be a vet customer of vetafarm.
October 6, 201014 yr So is it a vet script only product Kaz? I guess not then..... Oh and I found this abstract..... seems fipronil HAS been used in budgerigars before AND been written up in a clinical paper somewhere. Nineteen clinical reports on the efficacy of fipronil (Frontline® Spray and Spot On) against a number of external parasites in different species of small animals are reviewed. In addition to dogs and cats the preparation was successfully administered to guinea pigs, hamsters, rats, mice, budgerigars, pigeons and reptiles for the elimination of pest arthropods. Effective parasite was observed for Etodectes cynotis, Sarcoptes scabei, Cheyletiella yasguri, Neotrombicula autumnalis, Lynxacarus radovsky, Trichodectis canis, Felicola subrostraties, Lignognathus setosus, Trixacarus caviae Polyplax spinulosa, Polyplax serrata, Liperuus spp., Columbicula columbae and Campanulotes bidentus compar. Fipronil kills these parasites rapidly and with a durable effect, allowing lesions of skin and feathers to improve and reducing severe pruritis. Possible contraindications in animals species such as the rabbit, squirrel, hedgehog and Galliformes are discussed. Frontline® spray is also effective as an environmental decontaminant. Hmmm might be an interesting alternative....... Edited October 6, 201014 yr by nubbly5
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