Anyone like to try and work out this hen ?

 

She looks like a yellow version on luisagol's hen.

Hmm well she's either a clearflight or a pied, she's grey wing

 

I think she's a clearflight greywing TCB....actually I'm pretty stumped but that's my guess, can you tell us whether she has any pied markings on her as that would change everything

 

That's assuming her wing markings are actuelly grey and not cinnamon. If they are cinnamon she's a greygreen

Edited September 14, 200816 yr by melbournebudgies

dilute green?

She is a dominant pied thats for certain

She is a dominant pied thats for certain

 

Ummmmm..... How come? Please elaborate.

Are her eyes back or plum?

 

Renee you can see the pied spot on the back of her head if you look carefully

Edited September 14, 200816 yr by melbournebudgies

Its by her wing markings that you know she is dominant pied regardless of colour. Also plum eyes means nothing here as she has iris rings which further indicates she is dominant pied.

Are her eyes back or plum?

 

Renee you can see the pied spot on the back of her head if you look carefully

 

But with the absence of body markings, doesn't the spot on the back of the head indicate that it's SPLIT?

Are her eyes back or plum?

 

Renee you can see the pied spot on the back of her head if you look carefully

 

But with the absence of body markings, doesn't the spot on the back of the head indicate that it's SPLIT?

You are confusing split recessive pied here when this is a dominant pied.

Edited September 14, 200816 yr by KAZ

Its by her wing markings that you know she is dominant pied regardless of colour. Also plum eyes means nothing here as she has iris rings which further indicates she is dominant pied.

Wing marking? What do you mean? At first glance I thought they looked like lacewing markings or maybe greywing?

Are her eyes back or plum?Renee you can see the pied spot on the back of her head if you look carefully

But with the absence of body markings, doesn't the spot on the back of the head indicate that it's SPLIT?

You are confusing split recessive pied here when this is a dominant pied.

Well I thought the splits both could have back head markings, although Dom Pied spots are bigger.

I was only asking about the eyes as I have a pied fallow which is very similiar(and has iris rings)Renee by wing markings I think Kaz means the clearflights

I was only asking about the eyes as I have a pied fallow which is very similiar(and has iris rings)Renee by wing markings I think Kaz means the clearflights

By the wing markings I mean the pattern of the colour over upper wings not flights....even though it is pale it IS the colour pattern and shape of dominant pied.

I was only asking about the eyes as I have a pied fallow which is very similiar(and has iris rings)Renee by wing markings I think Kaz means the clearflights

By the wing markings I mean the pattern of the colour over upper wings not flights....even though it is pale it IS the colour pattern and shape of dominant pied.

 

Aha, now you have pointed it out it does seem obvious!

I was only asking about the eyes as I have a pied fallow which is very similiar(and has iris rings)Renee by wing markings I think Kaz means the clearflights

By the wing markings I mean the pattern of the colour over upper wings not flights....even though it is pale it IS the colour pattern and shape of dominant pied.

 

Aha, now you have pointed it out it does seem obvious! :hap:

Yes its the pale colour that throws you off....sometimes you have to "imagine" it darker to see what the pattern would be

What about the spot on the back of the head? Would anyone like to tackle that one?

 

Now I am sure that on the MBC forum something was said about this and from what I remember the splits of both Rec & Domi Pieds can have head spots but the Rec Pieds were much smaller.

 

For ex., I have a normal green with a 5c spot on the back of its head and I was under the impression that it was split for Domi Pied.

 

Mind you at that time I did ask the MBC membership to explain this to me and nobody did .....

Some not all split recessive have a tiny spot on the back of their head. Most dom pieds have a large patch. There is no such thing as a split for dom pied.

Some not all split recessive have a tiny spot on the back of their head. Most dom pieds have a large patch. There is no such thing as a split for dom pied.

 

Of course, they can't be split because they're DOMINANT!!!! I told you I was **** at genetics, LOL

 

So this bird I was talking about, Looks like a Normal Green but the dot at the back of it's head indicates that it's split for RECESSIVE!

 

I am I right?

Some not all split recessive have a tiny spot on the back of their head. Most dom pieds have a large patch. There is no such thing as a split for dom pied.

 

Of course, they can't be split because they're DOMINANT!!!! I told you I was **** at genetics, LOL

 

So this bird I was talking about, Looks like a Normal Green but the dot at the back of it's head indicates that it's split for RECESSIVE!

 

I am I right?

Photo required. The split for recessive is usually just a very very small spot not a patch. Have you bred that bird yet ?

Edited September 14, 200816 yr by KAZ

Photo required. The split for recessive is usually just a very very small spot not a patch. Have you bred that bird yet ?

 

Sorry, no can do. It must've been one of Peg's and I've given them all back.

Edited September 14, 200816 yr by KAZ

You said she does have plum eyes Kaz? I can't tell on my screen.

 

In doing some research before I posted I believe she is a Dominat Pied Lacewing.

 

Features: Dominant Pied becaues of the wing pattern.

 

Lacewing traits because the budgie is yellow with the suffision under the tail, marking on the head and wings show up a light cinnamon, body color is slightly visible in the wing pattern, plum eyes, cheeks patches are a pale violet.

You said she does have plum eyes Kaz? I can't tell on my screen.

 

In doing some research before I posted I believe she is a Dominat Pied Lacewing.

 

Features: Dominant Pied becaues of the wing pattern.

 

Lacewing traits because the budgie is yellow with the suffision under the tail, marking on the head and wings show up a light cinnamon, body color is slightly visible in the wing pattern, plum eyes, cheeks patches are a pale violet.

 

NO I never said she has plum eyes.

okay, someone must have somewhere in there I read..do she have red eyes or black with normal iris rings?

This bird IS a dom pied with black eyes and iris rings. No lacewing involved.

This bird IS a dom pied with black eyes and iris rings. No lacewing involved.

 

Sorry it is hard to tell on the screen at times is she a grey or a cinnamon marked? Just making sure I am sure I can go through the gobs of posts so if you can help me out here thanks.