So I thought this would be a good way to learn, not only for me but alot of others. Below are pictures of wing patterns on MY birds and I was wondering if you guys can point out the particulars on them to tell me what pattern makes them what they are so I can learn how to look for signs...

 

 

These first three I'm told are all Opaline, but to me (probably because I know nothing...lol) non of their wings look the same?? What particular markings make them Opaline?

 

1. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4800.jpg

 

2. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4830.jpg

(bird on right)

 

3. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4830.jpg

 

This one is Dominant Pied... I know dominant pieds have a spot on the back of their heads, which she does and I've read that all dominant pieds have clear flight feathers, is that ture of all dominant pieds and are these the two things the only things to look for to that indicate DP?

 

4. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4807.jpg

 

This one is recessive pied? I just assume the absence of markings on her wings is a way to tell (besides the fact that she has no iris) but what is the true indication from her markings to tell?

 

5. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4816.jpg

 

These two are both normal hens... the only thing I know to look for are no bands of color on the body and dark lines on the head, but what do I look for on wings?

 

6. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4820.jpg

 

7. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4796.jpg

(bird on left)

 

This last one is a greywing. I know duhhhh the markings are grey, but is that it? Simple as that?

 

8. http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4826.jpg

 

I really want to learn this stuff and I think focusing on one particular part of the body at a time and learning what to look for might help. I don't have any DF or Spangles so I don't have pics to post to teach me those markings to look for so if someone has a picture of them and wants to point out the wing features on them that would be great. I know discriptions are in the FAQ and Mutation section of the Willow Aviary but it groups the info and I want to break the body parts down. (Later I can learn about beak and leg color, belly and rump, etc...)

 

okay, so that's it. If you feel this is redundant or I need to educate myself some other way, I understand, but I thought it would be good for me and others trying to grasp this stuff.

Edited September 16, 200816 yr by KAZ
dominant pied ( typo ) not dominate

Not to be mean but it is always better to resize your pictures vs links, most people will pass links because it is time consuming especially a lot like you have posted, how to resize is in the Welcome Center under Posting Pictures.

 

Opaline: It reverses the striping pattern on the head feathers so that there are thicker white areas and thinner black stripes. Another feature which adds to the beauty of this mutation is that the body feather color runs through the stripes on the back of the neck and down through the wing feathers. Opaline budgies' tails are characteristically patterned with light and colored areas running down the tail feather. (http://www.budgieplace.com/c_opaline.html)

 

Dominant Pieds: There are 3 different version there are one with clearflights, those that have large spots on the back of their heads (not the small denoting split to recessive) and then there are the double factor where there is hardly any wing pattern at all. We did have a post going about this in the mutation section that I remember .

 

Recessive Pieds are n not determined by the absense of wing pattern, they do have quite of bit of wing pattern but it tends to be more splotch also the KEY to the recessive pied is NO iris rings and their eyes can be a dark plum.

 

Normals are just that normal looking budgies they look like the wild budgie but also come in the blue series not just the green.

Greywings usually have a 50% dilute in the body, dilutes can have gray wings but their dilute is about 80% there is the FULL BODIED Greywing that has greywings and a bright body or the Greywing with grey wings and the 50% wash out all over the body

 

We do have a PINNED Post called Members Birds I believe under the Mutation section you will see that is broken down by variety including the DFS and more...your best to look there because there are so many different varieties.

 

Hope that helps.

Thank Elly... this was very helpful and I will visit the areas of the site you suggested. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

 

Sorry about the links instead of photos. I explained before my computer is not allowing me to resize. I have tried to trouble shoot it but still can't figure out the problem. Photobucket lets me get to the resize screen and when I click the size I want it boots me out of the program and closes out my internet all together. I know it's inconvienent but I don't want to miss out just because I can't post a picture instead of a link. I didn't realize that someone won't even bother with a post because of it. Good to know.

Have you updated your Internet Explorer? It sounds like a browser issue not your computer, try upgrading to IE 7 and above it is free.

These first three I'm told are all Opaline, but to me (probably because I know nothing...lol) non of their wings look the same?? What particular markings make them Opaline?

With opalines there is a lot less barring on the head and shoulders and the body colour can be seen between the dark markings on the wings. There is a lot of variation between birds, some will have very heavy flecking on their heads and shoulders and others will be almost clear

 

[This one is Dominate Pied... I know dominate pieds have a spot on the back of their heads, which she does and I've read that all dominate pieds have clear flight feathers, is that ture of all dominate pieds and are these the two things the only things to look for to that indicate DP?

Dominant pieds have clear flight feathers and also a band (or part of a band) of clear feathers across the front of their bodies. Don't worry too much about the clear spot on the back of their heads as all pieds have this spot. Some will have clear tail feather and some wont. If a pied has the clear flight feathers but doesn't have a clear band across it's front it is probably a clearfight pied not a dominant pied. (By the way the name of the mutation is dominant not dominate)

 

 

 

This one is recessive pied? I just assume the absence of markings on her wings is a way to tell (besides the fact that she has no iris) but what is the true indication from her markings to tell?

With recessive pieds the pied pattern is random. Some will have a lot of marking on their wings and some very little. Most have a patch of body colour on the rump and usually they have clear areas fairly high on their chests

 

These two are both normal hens... the only thing I know to look for are no bands of color on the body and dark lines on the head, but what do I look for on wings?

Normal is just that. A full quota of head and wing bars and no patches on their bodies

 

 

This last one is a greywing. I know duhhhh the markings are grey, but is that it? Simple as that?

Yes it is as simple as that. With normal greywings the markings will be exactly the same as normals except that they are grey. Also the body colour will be diluted by about half. If a greywing is also opaline the makings will be the same as other opalines but grey instead of black

Thank you to all who took the time to reply to this post. I am try really hard to learn this and process it. You are all alot of help and I envy your knowledge. Thank you again.

Chrissy something for you to try. Have you seen that you can actually select the size you want the photo to end up on the little drop down menu underneath the 'upload photos' button in photobucket. It means that the photos automatically upload at the correct size and you don't have to try and resize them after they are uploaded

Chrissy something for you to try. Have you seen that you can actually select the size you want the photo to end up on the little drop down menu underneath the 'upload photos' button in photobucket. It means that the photos automatically upload at the correct size and you don't have to try and resize them after they are uploaded

 

 

Thank you sooo much for this. I never saw that before.... how could I have not??? I just tried it and I'm gonna use this picture to test it. (This is my pair I just got into a breeding cage this week.)

 

 

It worked, it worked!!!!! Thank you sooooooooo much!

 

One Question, do you or anyone else know how to resize all existing photos in your album to the same size at once?? Is there a setting for that?

Edited September 15, 200816 yr by chrissy0705