Posted September 2, 200816 yr I have a few pieds in my flock as some of you know and have been told what they are thought to be... we thought it would be a good learning experience, as if was for me, and see what everyone else thought them to be... so what do you think they are: 1.) http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN3770.jpg 2.) http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN3766.jpg 3.) http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN3098.jpg 4.) http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...scn2828-1-1.jpg These are all one form of pied or another from what I'm told, just want to see what everyone else thinks and see if we are all in agreement, just for fun I guess.
September 2, 200816 yr 1. Double Factor if the Iris Rings come in 2. Clearflight Pied 3. Dominant Pied 4. Recessive Pied
September 2, 200816 yr Author 1. Double Factor if the Iris Rings come in2. Clearflight Pied 3. Dominant Pied 4. Recessive Pied ** 1. Iris rings are now present...For your information Edited September 3, 200816 yr by *libby* Changed FYI - Please stick to accepted shortcuts.
September 2, 200816 yr Author Then Double Factor Dominant Pied for 1 for sure. Teach me something please???? What markings make it DF. Is it the amount of yellow on the wings? Most pics of DF I see seem to be almost solid with only a few markings... is this what makes it DF?
September 2, 200816 yr 1/ Dominant Pied Light Green (Single factor, a double would be almost all clear yellow with only a few markings) 2/ Dominant Pied Sky Blue 3/ Greywing green that is probably split to recessive pied (The clear patch on the back of the head of an otherwise normal bird is usually an indicator that it is split to recessive pied) 4/ Recessive Pied Dark Green
September 2, 200816 yr Neville, I was shaky on that one, a clearer picture of the back would help because that was what I was thinking at first, and for the 3 one you are right I forgot about the split to recessive in fact it reminded me more of the spangle spot vs the dominant pied spot, a picture of the front of the bird would help too.
September 2, 200816 yr Author Neville, I was shaky on that one, a clearer picture of the back would help because that was what I was thinking at first, and for the 3 one you are right I forgot about the split to recessive in fact it reminded me more of the spangle spot vs the dominant pied spot, a picture of the front of the bird would help too. the third one I agree with the split to recessive... but Neville says is green??? I was also told sky blue YF2.... ? anyone want to give some opinion on that? blue yf2 or green? Here's another photo of him.... http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN3063.jpg Edited September 2, 200816 yr by chrissy0705
September 2, 200816 yr With the greywing - one one wing is clipped?????I am sure it isn't a YF2No skyblue in that what so ever? look at the rump - Tail feathers and near his feet
September 2, 200816 yr Author With the greywing - one one wing is clipped?????I am sure it isn't a YF2No skyblue in that what so ever? look at the rump - Tail feathers and near his feet Wing clipped is from a while back... he was in the process of growing them back in. He had them clipped when I got him and I was letting them grow in. The one side seemed to grow back much faster than the other. He is fully "feathered" now. No worries. So the green on his rump says he's def. green???? No, yellow face.... man, I thought I had a chance. Does everyone else agree... .no sky blue yellowface II... definitely green?????? Edited September 2, 200816 yr by chrissy0705
September 2, 200816 yr Author I agree he is a greenis there any way he's a YF1 green then?????? is there a such thing ? 1/ Dominant Pied Light Green (Single factor, a double would be almost all clear yellow with only a few markings)2/ Dominant Pied Sky Blue3/ Greywing green that is probably split to recessive pied (The clear patch on the back of the head of an otherwise normal bird is usually an indicator that it is split to recessive pied)4/ Recessive Pied Dark Green Two questions then.... one if my grey wing is not sky blue yf2 then the out come of what I was toldmy babies are going to be will be different. My greywing is paired with #4 my dark green recessive pied hen... they have five eggs right now... so what will the babies be?? This is what the guess was when the cock was thought to be sbyf2.... "50% Dark green, 50% Light Green unless Sunny is split for blue. If she is then 25% each of Light Green, Dark Green, Cobalt & Sky Blue Half the chicks will be recessive pied and half normals, no greywing unless Sunny is split for greywing. All the chicks will be split for greywing. All the green chicks will be split for blue. All the chicks that are not recessive pied will be split for recessive pied Half the chicks will be recessive pied and half normals, no greywing unless Sunny is split for greywing. All the chicks will be split for greywing. All the green chicks will be split for blue. All the chicks that are not recessive pied will be split for recessive pied"????? What will they be now ???? I agree he is a greenThe second picture of # 3 helped you so here is a second picture of # 1 the one Neville thinks sf dom pied green hen..... you asked for a better picture of her back.... this is a picture when she was just a few months old.... http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/dscn1350.jpgthis is from not too long ago.... http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN3700.jpgSF ? DF??
September 3, 200816 yr okay I can help you out eith that ... easy ... NEVVVIIILLLLEEEE, LLIIBBBYYYY, Sorry I am a joker lol ... I haven't an idea it is rather confusing to me I am sure that someone more experienced will answer shortly
September 3, 200816 yr So the green on his rump says he's def. green???? No, yellow face.... man, I thought I had a chance. Does everyone else agree... .no sky blue yellowface II... definitely green??????It looks green in the photo but the camera doesn't always get the colours right. If you look under the wings and if there is blue or white showing then he's type 2 yellow face, if there's yellow and green then he's a green
September 3, 200816 yr Two questions then.... one if my grey wing is not sky blue yf2 then the out come of what I was toldmy babies are going to be will be different. My greywing is paired with #4 my dark green recessive pied hen... they have five eggs right now... so what will the babies be?? This is what the guess was when the cock was thought to be sbyf2.... "50% Dark green, 50% Light Green unless Sunny is split for blue. If she is then 25% each of Light Green, Dark Green, Cobalt & Sky Blue Half the chicks will be recessive pied and half normals, no greywing unless Sunny is split for greywing. All the chicks will be split for greywing. All the green chicks will be split for blue. All the chicks that are not recessive pied will be split for recessive pied Half the chicks will be recessive pied and half normals, no greywing unless Sunny is split for greywing. All the chicks will be split for greywing. All the green chicks will be split for blue. All the chicks that are not recessive pied will be split for recessive pied"????? What will they be now ????Here's an amended version Sunny & Raine Recessive Pied Dark Green & Greywing Light Green split for Recessive Pied 50% Dark green, 50% Light Green unless they both are split for blue. If they are then 37.5% each of Light Green & Dark Green, plus 12.5% each Cobalt & Sky Blue. Half the chicks will be recessive pied and half normals, no greywing unless Sunny is split for greywing. All the chicks will be split for greywing. All the chicks that are not recessive pied will be split for recessive pied (I'm not sure whether Raine is light or dark green, if he's dark you'll get olives
September 3, 200816 yr 1/ Dominant Pied Light Green (Single factor, a double would be almost all clear yellow with only a few markings) 2/ Dominant Pied Sky Blue 3/ Greywing green that is probably split to recessive pied (The clear patch on the back of the head of an otherwise normal bird is usually an indicator that it is split to recessive pied) 4/ Recessive Pied Dark Green I have to agree with Neville. You have to look at the bird not just one feature. The first is a normal Dominant Pied.
September 3, 200816 yr Author So the green on his rump says he's def. green???? No, yellow face.... man, I thought I had a chance. Does everyone else agree... .no sky blue yellowface II... definitely green??????It looks green in the photo but the camera doesn't always get the colours right. If you look under the wings and if there is blue or white showing then he's type 2 yellow face, if there's yellow and green then he's a green looks blue under there to me..... ??? take a look http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4718.jpg http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n400/ch...5a/DSCN4719.jpg Let me know what you all think now?
September 4, 200816 yr okay now i am totally confused It is all green ??? PLEASE can someone explain that to me I get the YF now and have put notes on my pc THANKS NEVILLE .. So it is a YF2 but Blue ????? Edited September 4, 200816 yr by Neat
September 4, 200816 yr okay now i am totally confused It is all green ??? PLEASE can someone explain that to me I get the YF now and have put notes on my pc THANKS NEVILLE .. So it is a YF2 but Blue ????? I'll try and confuse you some more. It probably would have been blue when it first came out of the nest but the yellow spread after it's first moult making it appear green. It is a blue series bird and if it was mated to a blue it could produce yellow face blues but it could not produce greens
September 4, 200816 yr Nar that didn't confuse me .. I understand the YF2 and how the colour bleeds into the body But I have never seen it like that .... Which is really cool ... So i will make sure that I check under the wings What a cool trick Thanks sooo much Neville Chrissy YAY for you !!!!!!!!
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