Posted August 31, 200816 yr Yes...that will be fine....IF the 20 inches is the width and IF the nestbox is fitted to the outside and not inside. Two perches front to back so they can fly across from one to another, Thicker than normal perches and stable so it doesnt wobble around. Kaz just curious to know what should be the ideal breeding cage width, if the nestbox is fitted inside the breeding cage. Also what is the logic followed behind the selection of breeding cage width, I have read here in few forum threads that the more wider the better....but interested to know how to derive to the right minimum breeding cage width size based on whether nestbox is placed outside or inside. Do we need to consider the nestbox size also? Thanks, Karthik
September 1, 200816 yr Yes...that will be fine....IF the 20 inches is the width and IF the nestbox is fitted to the outside and not inside. Two perches front to back so they can fly across from one to another, Thicker than normal perches and stable so it doesnt wobble around. :budgiedance: Kaz just curious to know what should be the ideal breeding cage width, if the nestbox is fitted inside the breeding cage. Also what is the logic followed behind the selection of breeding cage width, I have read here in few forum threads that the more wider the better....but interested to know how to derive to the right minimum breeding cage width size based on whether nestbox is placed outside or inside. Do we need to consider the nestbox size also? Thanks, Karthik Nestbox fitted inside takes up too much room and is hard to get at for inspections which are vital once chicks arrive. You need space inside the breeder cage for the display of mating behaviour...flying back and forth across the cage prior to mating and this mating happens through the course of egg laying. If you had the nestbox inside most likely there would not be room for two perches set far enough apaprt for the flying and mating ritual which is a part of the wooing behaviour. You simply cannot inspect a nestbox easily if it is inside the cage, and if you have to move the nestbox each time you try nand inspect it you risk addling and breaking eggs, and disrupting the hen. If fitted externally as this is made easier and less disruption to the hen and chicks.
September 1, 200816 yr Author Nestbox fitted inside takes up too much room and is hard to get at for inspections which are vital once chicks arrive. You need space inside the breeder cage for the display of mating behaviour...flying back and forth across the cage prior to mating and this mating happens through the course of egg laying. If you had the nestbox inside most likely there would not be room for two perches set far enough apaprt for the flying and mating ritual which is a part of the wooing behaviour. You simply cannot inspect a nestbox easily if it is inside the cage, and if you have to move the nestbox each time you try nand inspect it you risk addling and breaking eggs, and disrupting the hen. If fitted externally as this is made easier and less disruption to the hen and chicks. Thanks Kaz. Okay if so what should be the ideal minimum distance between two perches. Also what is addling, is it same as dead in shell or some thing different. Whether breeding cage of 20 inches (long) x 15 inches (deep) x 15 inches (high) is ideal size or what should be the minimum breeding cage size. Sorry for asking too many questions Kaz, since I have few small plywood pieces and which I am planning make a breeding cage with the help of a carpenter. So just trying to collect as much info as possible to my knowledge in order to do it correctly.
September 1, 200816 yr Okay if so what should be the ideal minimum distance between two perches. Also what is addling, is it same as dead in shell or some thing different. Whether breeding cage of 20 inches (long) x 15 inches (deep) x 15 inches (high) is ideal size or what should be the minimum breeding cage size. Sorry for asking too many questions Kaz, since I have few small plywood pieces and which I am planning make a breeding cage with the help of a carpenter. So just trying to collect as much info as possible to my knowledge in order to do it correctly. Distance between perches ideally at least a foot. Addling is too much movement with the eggs stopping them from developing inside. the size quoted 20 by 15 by 15 would be the minimum size and no smaller. Unhappy, unhealthy budgies do not breed well. When you think how long a pair of budgies is in a breeder cage....size of that space is vitally important.
September 2, 200816 yr Author Thanks Kaz for explaining this to me as always and apologies for not being that clear in my previous post, which I have posted yesterday in a hurry. Breeding cage size which I have mentioned (20" (w) x 15" (d) x 15" (h)) in my previous post was with nestbox outside and NOT with inside, looks like you have already got it correctly . I have following approximate size plywood pieces of 19mm thickness: 21.5” x 18.5” - 1 Piece 21” x 12” – 2 Piece 8.5” x 18” - 1 Piece 8” x 18” - 1 Piece 6” x 18” - 1 Piece 6” x 6’ - 1 Piece Planning to make a breeding cage or hospital cage. Thinking to make use of these 19mm thick plywood pieces for the cage sides and the bottom, top and back to use 6mm thick plywood and front side of thick wire mesh. Due to safty precautions from cat, monkeys and rats, I am still looking for a best way to attach the nest box from outside of the cage safely and if nothing work outs, then I will have to go with hospital cage or anything which is best possible to make from these. Forgot to mention a point that this breeding cage will be placed in the veranda, which is like half outdoor or indoor. Kaz if you have any other thoughts or ideas to best make use of these plywood pieces, please let me know and once this is finalized, I will have to look out for a carpenter/builder who can make this for me.
September 2, 200816 yr Here is a topic about a hospital cage that my father made for me. Its been great...works brilliantly and is still in use today............ http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....l=hospital+cage
September 2, 200816 yr Author Thanks Kaz for the link. Infact I have seen this thread before through the FAQ article and really I liked it. So only I had this also as another option.
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now