January 20, 200916 yr Author I stayed at rainbow bay, the photos are pictures of duranbah, snapper rocks and rainbow bay. I beleive the grey opaline has the same problem as neon and thunders other babies... but the others seem healthy. Here are the babies. Grey opaline (Parents are neon and thunder) Skyblue cinnamon (Parents are sumo and bullet) Skyblue cinnamon yellowface (parents are sumo and bullet) And here are chomper and summers babies.
January 20, 200916 yr Author Hi I have looked in the faq and tried instant response but couldnt see anything with reguards to clipping a birds beak. Is their a way I can trim them myself? As you know my 2 fm birds beaks just keep growing. They need a good trim. I have finger nail scissors and a few other devices that cut fingernails. Any tips or helpwould be greatly appreciated. I should also say that the top beaks are overgrown, not the bottom. It would be so much easier for the birds if I could learn to trim them.
January 20, 200916 yr they look wonderful...your spangles are gorgeous . I would first go to the avian vet to show you how because the beak is very sensitive part of the body and can bleed out, I believe from my readings that you would file the beak instead of clipping this is safer and more natural and won't leave sharp edges.
January 20, 200916 yr I would first go to the avian vet to show you how because the beak is very sensitive part of the body and can bleed out, I believe from my readings that you would file the beak instead of clipping this is safer and more natural and won't leave sharp edges. I totally agree with Elly on this advice
January 20, 200916 yr Author Thankyou very much Elly. I will ask a vet to show me. The beaks on these budgies are not like a normal beak. The beak starts out fine, and then it looks like it has rubbed up against sand paper. It grows more and more every week, and if not trimmed it would eventually cause great harm. A file sounds like a good idea.
January 20, 200916 yr My girlfirend, had a budgie like this and she took it ot the avian vet to show her how and then after that she did it with a friend, one hold the bird in a towel and one files. Filing is more natural and you won't cut too deep PLUS if you cut you would have a square sharp edged beak. Let us know how it goes.
January 21, 200916 yr Really love the coloring of this one I agree a boy you should enter for budgie of the month
January 21, 200916 yr Mate you have some nice birds there. Babies are looking good. Phone takes awesome photos too
January 22, 200916 yr Author Thankyou very much all. I bought a new camera today. It is alot better than my old one, but it can only hold 4 photos :rofl: so I will have to get a memory card for it. Does anyone lose birds to the heat? Today one of the younger birds in the avairy died, but has no visual signs of a disease/illness. So I'm wondering if its because of the heat? The avairy is insulated and I spray it with water every couple of hours.
January 22, 200916 yr Author The vet has trimmed the birds beaks and they look alot better, he doesnt know what is wrong with them. I dont really know either. They always have dirty vents, their toe nails and beaks keep growing, Their chirp doesnt sound like a normal budgies does and they dont eat much at all compared to most budgies. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
January 22, 200916 yr Author Ive found out that the birds have Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease (PBFD)- Quote taken directly from this site: http://www.avianbiotech.com/diseases/pbfd.htm Causes fatal infections, primarily in young birds. Older birds may overcome the disease with few lasting affects. Some believe that these surviving birds become carriers able to shed the disease at a later date. Others believe that a percentage of birds are able to eradicate the disease from their system leaving them with a natural immunity that can be passed on to their offspring. The virus that causes PBFD can also affect the liver, brain, and immune system causing diminished resistance to infections. Consequently premature death usually occurs from these secondary bacterial, fungal, parasitic, or viral infections. Symptoms include irreversible loss of feathers, shedding of developing feathers, development of abnormal feathers, new pinched feathers, and loss of powder down. Other possible symptoms include overgrown or abnormal beak, symmetrical lesions on the beak and occasionally nails. Immunosuppression, rapid weight loss, and depression are also possible in later stages of the disease. Now I've found out it can be transmitted between birds, so I have to isolate these birds now Edited January 22, 200916 yr by budgie88
January 23, 200916 yr Pearce you need the birds tested for this. To do an internet search and say the symptoms fit your birds is not a thorough or expert diagnosis. The symptoms you described also fit french moult birds. And also since they are in the aviary and they do not fly or get around well, they can easily die from starvation because they havent good access to food and water like the other birds. And YES I have a lot of experience with this that helps me to be able to advise you. Edited January 23, 200916 yr by KAZ
January 23, 200916 yr Author Thankyou KAZ. My birds are in a small cage by themselves because they would never make it in a small avairy. I did not know french moult birds get overgrown beaks and other problems. Have you ever had french moult birds similar to mine? Overgrown beaks, dont eat much, dirty vents all the time? Etc... Any advice on what I should do what be greatly appreciated. Thankyou very much.
January 23, 200916 yr Thankyou KAZ. My birds are in a small cage by themselves because they would never make it in a small avairy. I did not know french moult birds get overgrown beaks and other problems. Have you ever had french moult birds similar to mine? Overgrown beaks, dont eat much, dirty vents all the time? Etc... Any advice on what I should do what be greatly appreciated. Thankyou very much. Yes...the overgrown beak seems to go hand in hand with french moult birds. Dirty vents can be from not feeding themselves well enough. Watch them feed....improve access and feeding stations for them as they are special needs budgies. You may have to have their beaks trimmed at the vet. Dont rely on cuttlebone to do that. Observe closely and see what you can find out by their habits.
January 23, 200916 yr Author okay Thankyou. Currently they are in a cage by themselves, all feeding dishes are on the ground. I took them to fthe vet yesterday and he trimmed the beaks and showed me how. He also reccomended feeding them pellets instead of bird seed, they are softer so they would be easier to eat for them. I have never used pellets before.
January 23, 200916 yr okay Thankyou. Currently they are in a cage by themselves, all feeding dishes are on the ground. I took them to fthe vet yesterday and he trimmed the beaks and showed me how. He also reccomended feeding them pellets instead of bird seed, they are softer so they would be easier to eat for them. I have never used pellets before. Whats with vets and pellets these days I think too many of them assume we bird owners are just seed and water feeders. When we on this forum are so much wiser than that and feed our birds such a wide variety of GOOD FOODS. All they have to say is 'PELLETS ARE A COMPLETE AND BALANCED DIET" . I still say phooey to that
January 23, 200916 yr Author okay so No pellets? They get all the same soft food as the normal budgies.
January 23, 200916 yr okay so No pellets? They get all the same soft food as the normal budgies. If you are feeding soft food as well as seed and vegies...what more do they need. I say NO to pellets. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=18890 Edited January 23, 200916 yr by KAZ
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