Hi

 

Please do not think I am over-anxious when it comes to breeding budgies, I just want to know what I am doing wrong so I can fix it..

 

Question:

Sunny+bull and Grunt+sumo and lemon+lime have been in the breeding cages for 4 weeks now. Sunny uses the nesting box but only when I walk past, I think she is scared and flys in their for safety. Grunt or sumo have never been in the box and neither have lemon or lime. What would a show breeder do in my position? Would you remove all pairs to the avairy then in 1 weeks time switch them around and put them back in the breeding boxes? Orjust leave them in their as they are all extremley bonded with eachother? I am honestly not sure, I must be doing somthing wrong and I am hoping I can find out what it is so I can fix it.

 

The breeding cages are under an awning that gets full lighting all day and full darkness at night. No one ever walks past the area except for me and that is once or twice each day. I try my hardest not to disturb them.

 

This is their weekly diet:

Sundays: corn on the cob, vitamins in water

monday: brocoli/cabbage/spinach, normal water

tuesday: grapes/carrot/apple, apple cidar vinegar in water

Wednesday: corn on the cob, calcivet in water

thursday: brocolli/cabbage/spinach, vitamin in water

friday: corn on the cob, calcivet in water

saturday: random vegetable I can find in the fridge, normal water.

 

They also get seed mixed by a show breeding friend of mine. They get cuttlebone, iodine/calcium blocks.

 

What would you do if you were in my position, what am I doing wrong.

 

Thanks for your time and I understand if you do not want to read it all, I wrote alot

I am not a show breeder, but to me it sounds like you are doing everything right.

I would cover the entrance of each nest boxe for a few days. I have heard this is a very effective way to get eggs happening

 

I would also give calcivet in their water on the days you give normal water too so they have a calcium supplement every day.

 

Finally, remove the cabbage (cabbage is toxic) from the diet and replace with carrot

 

There is nothing at all wrong with your questions by the way

Edited August 29, 200816 yr by **Liv**

Thanks very much **liv**

 

I thought the covering the nest box hole idea was for budgies who use the nesting box. I will give that a go. I am sorry, I thought lettuce was the toxic vegetable and not cabbage. Will it kill my birds instantly or does it take a while to kill them? The last time I fed it to them was last monday, None of them have died.. Do you think it will kill any? Should I take them all to the vet? Is their a treatment for it..

 

Thanks very much.

Thanks very much **liv**

 

I thought the covering the nest box hole idea was for budgies who use the nesting box. I will give that a go. I am sorry, I thought lettuce was the toxic vegetable and not cabbage. Will it kill my birds instantly or does it take a while to kill them? The last time I fed it to them was last monday, None of them have died.. Do you think it will kill any? Should I take them all to the vet? Is their a treatment for it..

 

Thanks very much.

 

Lettuce is not toxic, just doesn't have any good properties in it so its not worth feeding it to them.

The cabbage is not going to kill them, but could make them feel yucky enough not to breed.

Lettuce is good for dehydrated birds :hap:

 

Pearce I can feel your worry and concern in your words. And i know what you are going through it is soo much easier when we colony breed compared to close breeding isn't it ....

 

4 weeks is a while to be in there without any signs of breeding behavior.

Are they in breeding condition? How are their Health?

Check the nest boxes for signs of any bugs in there?

You could try adding wheat germ to their food also, Cod Liver oil, and wheat grass as these are great for fertility

 

Cover the holes up like Liv suggested use a thin pit of paper or cardboard and put a slight hole in there, If the hens are ready they will Nor their way through the hole? Or when you uncover the hole they will go in ...

 

You could also try removing the cocks for a few days and put them back in ...

 

Are they are bonded to each other or have you separated the pairs, If you have separated pairs that were once bonded this could cause a problem too as they will hear each others calls and not go down to breed with other pairs ....

 

Also check your perches that they are stable and thick enough to grip onto ....

Edited August 29, 200816 yr by Neat

Lettuce is good for dehydrated birds

 

Pearce I can feel your worry and concern in your words. And i know what you are going through it is soo much easier when we colony breed compared to close breeding isn't it ....

 

4 weeks is a while to be in there without any signs of breeding behavior.

Are they in breeding condition? How are their Health?

Check the nest boxes for signs of any bugs in there?

You could try adding wheat germ to their food also, Cod Liver oil, and wheat grass as these are great for fertility

 

Cover the holes up like Liv suggested use a thin pit of paper or cardboard and put a slight hole in there, If the hens are ready they will Nor their way through the hole? Or when you uncover the hole they will go in ...

 

You could also try removing the cocks for a few days and put them back in ...

 

Are they are bonded to each other or have you separated the pairs, If you have separated pairs that were once bonded this could cause a problem too as they will hear each others calls and not go down to breed with other pairs ....

 

Also check your perches that they are stable and thick enough to grip onto ....

 

Thanks very much. I will try the paper idea. My pairs were bonded in the avairy that is why I put them in cages, they were not seperated. I have seen them all mating and preening eachother all the time. They are in good health and as far as I know they are in breeding condition...

Here are updated pics of them and maybe you could tell me if they are in breeding condition or not..

Looking good

 

I hope they get in the breeding mood for you soon. it could be something as simple as the wrong time of the year. Most cabinet breeders have artificial climate and light to help breeding though winter.

 

Sending you lots of wishes

Hi.

 

I covered the nest holes with paper at 3 pm and when I got home at 5 pm the paper had been ripped apart. Is this a good sign or bad... I dont know if they just ate it out of boredem or hunger or wanting to lay eggs..

 

Thanks

Looking good .... Well that paper could be a good sign

Maybe they are just a little slower with the breeding , You know they want to be wined and dined :hap:

Not just wam bam thank you man

Hello.

 

Update: Still no eggs but it is looking good... Today I saw grunt and sumo mating which I have never seen before... Usually sumo just mates the perch.. Beauty (female cockatiel) has laid 5 eggs now and they are all fertile. 6 more days and they should hatch. It is quite amazing, the female incubates the eggs for a while then she comes out to eat and the male goes in and incubates... I never knew males did that its quite fascinating.

 

**this may be a sensitive question to some people here so feel free to ignore anything under this**

This may sound like a stupid question but I have googled it and cannot find any answers.. How long does a budgies "mating act" take to fertile the eggs? I cannot think of any other way to explain it.. Today I saw sumo mating the perch yet again.. then when he moved I saw a white liquid on the perch ( I am assuming its sperm?) then he goes straight and mates with grunt... I am worried that he used all his "ammo" on the perch and had none left for grunt.

I probably sound stupid but I need to find the answer to this.

 

Thanks for your time.

**this may be a sensitive question to some people here so feel free to ignore anything under this**

This may sound like a stupid question but I have googled it and cannot find any answers.. How long does a budgies "mating act" take to fertile the eggs? I cannot think of any other way to explain it.. Today I saw sumo mating the perch yet again.. then when he moved I saw a white liquid on the perch ( I am assuming its sperm?) then he goes straight and mates with grunt... I am worried that he used all his "ammo" on the perch and had none left for grunt.

I probably sound stupid but I need to find the answer to this.

 

This is not a sensitive question at all.

 

A budgie i belive only has enough sperm for one fertile mating per day. if his "ammo" lands on the perch then he will be shooting blanks there after.

 

If he has a sweet spot on a particular perch i would take it out and replace it with something different - perhaps a natural branch or a rope one etc. It might take his mind off it and get him more interested in his hen

Wow ..... Liv great Advice mate !!!!

Hi.

 

I will change the perch and put it in a different spot asap. Thank you very much for the help.

Bit slow to react Pearce :sad: I would have let the hen sit on that section of perch for a little while :hap:

I know others will be thinking it so i will ask it ...

 

Really Kaz?

 

 

 

 

I know i am the most gullible person in the world But you just never know

I know others will be thinking it so i will ask it ...

 

Really Kaz?

 

 

 

 

I know i am the most gullible person in the world But you just never know

 

Artificial insemination Neat ............ :sad:

I've heard of that and read it in some documents i have. But assumed :sad: that it was well more technical then that

I've heard of that and read it in some documents i have. But assumed :sad: that it was well more technical then that

It is

Hello all

 

This may be a long shot but here goes. I have alot of these sort of trees growing in my yard and they are pests. My friend seems to think they are called pom pom trees but I'm not sure. They are definitly a pest and they spread everywhere. They grow pretty big and the branches are very straight. They have very small leaves connected to a series of branches attached to the main stem. I need to know the name as I want to use the stems as perches for birds but I need to know if they are toxic or not. They are not a bush, they are a tall growing tree with small leaves.

 

Thanks for your time

Hello all

 

This may be a long shot but here goes. I have alot of these sort of trees growing in my yard and they are pests. My friend seems to think they are called pom pom trees but I'm not sure. They are definitly a pest and they spread everywhere. They grow pretty big and the branches are very straight. They have very small leaves connected to a series of branches attached to the main stem. I need to know the name as I want to use the stems as perches for birds but I need to know if they are toxic or not. They are not a bush, they are a tall growing tree with small leaves.

 

Thanks for your time

Like this ?

Hi

 

No it is like a tree. The stem grows quite thick and little branches come off the side with little leaves attached. It grows very high, I have some that are atleast 3 meters high and the width of a 20 cent piece. If you grab the small branches coming off the side of the tree and run your hand along it, the leaves will fall off they are that small and delicate. I remember at school people used to grab them off and throw them at eachother. I will take a picture in the morning.

 

Thanks for your help

Hi

 

I cant understand how to tell if a male or a female budgie is in breeding condition or not, I have read many articles about it. Could someone tell me if thunder ( my male 2 year old budgie) is in breading condition and if he is in good health.

 

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ahjyg.jpg

 

P.S - the white dots on his cere are not holes, I do not know what they are, could they be scaly mites?

Edited September 5, 200816 yr by pearce

Hi

 

I cant understand how to tell if a male or a female budgie is in breeding condition or not, I have read many articles about it. Could someone tell me if thunder ( my male 2 year old budgie) is in breading condition and if he is in good health.

 

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ahjyg.jpg

 

P.S - the white dots on his cere are not holes, I do not know what they are, could they be scaly mites?

Treat him for scaly mite. AND he is not in breeding condition. If he was his cere would be clean and bright...the brightest blue...like this

 

Hi

 

okay thanks very much. I will treat him immediatley. Good news... Grunt laid an egg this afternoon, Lets hope its fertile.

 

P.S I am battling with colour expectations. Grunt is a normal grey and sumo is a normal cobalt. That means that sumo has 2 dark factors? and grunt has none?

 

(sumo?) (Grunt?)

Dominant (Double Factor) Normal = 100% dominant single factor

 

From what I gather, grunt is dominant because she is grey and sumo is not because he is blue. Will I get all skyblue babies from this pair as it says single factor? I am soooo confused..

 

Edit: Is their a site that anyone knows of that says skyblue + olive green = ??? or Lutino + Albino = ???

Instead of all the dominant (sf) and all that? It is confusing me.

Edited September 5, 200816 yr by pearce

You dont need a site...just ask the question in a new topic...under mutations and others will answer