okay Thank you very much KAZ. Have any of your budgies stopped laying at 2 eggs? Or skipped 2 days?

 

Thanks very much for the help. I will post some pictures and updates tomorow.

okay Thank you very much KAZ. Have any of your budgies stopped laying at 2 eggs? Or skipped 2 days?

 

Thanks very much for the help. I will post some pictures and updates tomorow.

As I recall...Yes some have done that. They are full of surrpises these little guys....keeps us on our toes. Not everything goes to plan :hap:

Hi Everyone

 

I have just got back from a 4 day holiday at Rainbow Bay, Coolangatta.

 

I have some good news and some very bad news.

 

Good news:

Neon and thunder now have 2 eggs.

Summer and chomper now have 4.

Beauty and beast now have 4.

 

Bad news: My parents were coming round to feed the birds while I was away. On saturday he noticed that 2 quails in the big avairy had died in the food dish.. He buried them and forgot to tell me about it. Today he called me up and said that he found my 6 other quails dead in the feed dish.. I then packed up and came home.

Their is no possibility of rats or snakes. My dove has a broken wing and cannot fly so he sits on the ground 24/7, how come all quails died and he did not... Maybe it is just a disease the quails got and only quails can get it... my budgies and dove are fine. They were all huddled up in the feed dish when he found them. Now that I think of it, on thursday before I left I noticed all the quails huddled up together in the corner, I thought nothing of it... Maybe they were sick and I couldn't see it. I feel very bad. I have moved all the birds out of the avairy until I find the problem.

 

Thanks for your time.

Edited September 24, 200816 yr by pearce

Very sorry to hear about the quails Pearce Is there vermin getting into the aviary ? They will spoil the food and they can die in 24 hrs from food contamination.

Edited September 24, 200816 yr by KAZ

Hi

 

I had mice problems in my previous avairy so I made sure my current one is rat proof. Their is absolutley 0% chance of any vermin/snakes getting in. The entire base of the avairy is cement. I dug a trench on the outskirts of the avairy and cemented 1 foot deep. Unless they can get through bird wire their is no way I have a rat problem. Maybe the quails got spooked by somthing?

 

THanks very much for the post.

Hi

 

I had mice problems in my previous avairy so I made sure my current one is rat proof. Their is absolutley 0% chance of any vermin/snakes getting in. The entire base of the avairy is cement. I dug a trench on the outskirts of the avairy and cemented 1 foot deep. Unless they can get through bird wire their is no way I have a rat problem. Maybe the quails got spooked by somthing?

 

THanks very much for the post.

How big is the bird mesh ? Mice can get through 12mm square.

The bird mesh is 8 mm and I have 2 sheets of it together and overlapping so the squares are half the size.

Maybe the food in the ground dish for the quails got contaminated. If they poop in it, it can go off really fast.

Yeah I was thinking that. All the quails dieing but no budgies or dove... seems strange to me.

I am going to re cement the base of the avairy tomorow and give it a good clean out.

 

I have some iverctmin. Do You only give it to birds with scaly face or do you give it to all birds as a prevention so they will not get scaly face?

 

Thanks very much.

Yeah I was thinking that. All the quails dieing but no budgies or dove... seems strange to me.

I am going to re cement the base of the avairy tomorow and give it a good clean out.

 

I have some iverctmin. Do You only give it to birds with scaly face or do you give it to all birds as a prevention so they will not get scaly face?

 

Thanks very much.

I treat all incoming birds with spot on ivermectin.

Hi

 

I candled summer and beautys eggs with no sucess. Some of the eggs were yellow with a black dot on one end of the egg. Some had veins and dark areas but had 1 air pocket at each end... some were clear with a dot on one side of the egg with lines branching out from it. I am not going to candle the eggs anymore I am no good at it. I will just let her sit on them for 30 days and if none hatch, I will remove them. They mate together 24/7 so I am just hoping that they are fertile.

 

Also, Can I use iverctmin scaly face treatment on a ring neck dove?

 

Thanks very much

Also, Can I use iverctmin scaly face treatment on a ring neck dove?

 

Thanks very much

 

I use it on my husbands Parrots and finches and canaries so I would say YES

Hi

 

I used ivermectin on each bird in the avairy and managed to do it right. It stinks somthing shocking. How long does it last for? Does it stop mites for a few months and then I need to apply it again?

 

Thanks very much.

Edited September 25, 200816 yr by KAZ
typo IVERMECTIN

Hi

 

I used iverctmin on each bird in the avairy and managed to do it right. It stinks somthing shocking. How long does it last for? Does it stop mites for a few months and then I need to apply it again?

 

Thanks very much.

If you treat all incoming birds with it and all in your aviary is treated then you really only need to use it again if you notice a problem.

Thanks very much KAZ

 

I have just one more set of questions.

 

What is the name of the medication used to treat psittacosis in budgies? Preferably somthing I can give in their seed or water... Do I have to go to a vet to get the medication or can it be purchased from a shop or online?

 

I remember someone saying that doxycycline -50 was a treatment for it but I forget now.

 

Thanks very much

Thanks very much KAZ

 

I have just one more set of questions.

 

What is the name of the medication used to treat psittacosis in budgies? Preferably somthing I can give in their seed or water... Do I have to go to a vet to get the medication or can it be purchased from a shop or online?

 

I remember someone saying that doxycycline -50 was a treatment for it but I forget now.

 

Thanks very much

It is doxycycline.....most often it is doxyvet or psittavet the name of the meds. Vet prescrbed definitely. Anything that says its thre same or close isnt as strong. Treatment is 6 weeks in fresh batches of water each day.

I candled summer and beautys eggs with no sucess. Some of the eggs were yellow with a black dot on one end of the egg. Some had veins and dark areas but had 1 air pocket at each end... some were clear with a dot on one side of the egg with lines branching out from it. I am not going to candle the eggs anymore I am no good at it. I will just let her sit on them for 30 days and if none hatch, I will remove them. They mate together 24/7 so I am just hoping that they are fertile.

 

You did great with the egg candling . what you describe is fertile and developing eggs

Thanks very much

 

I will try get into the vet tomorow.

 

Has anyone here had any problems when candling/handling eggs? What if a disease on your hands goes through the egg shell and kills the developing budgie? What if the scent you leave behind in the nest box discourages the hen from wanting to incubate? Or worse, makes her chuck all the eggs out?

I dont think I will risk it.

Thanks very much

 

I will try get into the vet tomorow.

 

Has anyone here had any problems when candling/handling eggs? What if a disease on your hands goes through the egg shell and kills the developing budgie? What if the scent you leave behind in the nest box discourages the hen from wanting to incubate? Or worse, makes her chuck all the eggs out?

I dont think I will risk it.

 

Get a little LED torch. I got an energizer key chain torch from big W (about $13) and i candle the eggs in the nest,

 

Just place the light next to the egg and you will see right through it. no need to touch or move the egg.

The below egg is one that was laid by one of my hens today so you can not see any veins or spots etc. However it has a double yolk so if i am lucky might get twings

Thanks very much

 

I will try get into the vet tomorow.

 

Has anyone here had any problems when candling/handling eggs? What if a disease on your hands goes through the egg shell and kills the developing budgie? What if the scent you leave behind in the nest box discourages the hen from wanting to incubate? Or worse, makes her chuck all the eggs out?

I dont think I will risk it.

I candle my eggs but do not handle them. I dont lift or shift an egg unless I have to. With the right kind of torch you just use it against the eggs in the nest and do not touch the eggs. The thing you said about your scent on the eggs is an OLD WIVE'S TALE as has little if no bearing on the truth. The hen does not smell your scent on the eggs. BUT handle eggs as little as possible. I keep in my birdroom some of the waterless disinfectant hand soloution to use between nests.

 

ALSO vets will only prescribe doxyvet or psittavet if you take a bird in for testing to be sure you have that problem in your aviary. They will not sell it over the counter nor will they sell it purely based on what you tell them with no bird to inspect.

I was thinking that kaz. None of my birds have psittacosis as far as I am aware but I thought I would check just incase as I lost all my quails. Thanks very much

 

**Liv**

I will try find a small led torch. If you dont mind me asking, how do you know that your egg is a double yoker? I do not know if it is my eye sight but all I see is the bottom half of the egg is yellow and the top half is dark. That is similar to what I am seeing in my birds eggs. Some are yellow with dots and veins and some are very dark with air pockets, one of the eggs has 2 air pockets... May I also ask what bedding you are using in your nest? It looks like poridge oats to me. I hope the egg hatches for you. Thanks very much

 

Could someone help me find out if the shell grit I have is insoluble or soluble? Here are some pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

So far I have read that some grits are good for birds and some are not. Soluble means that it breaks up in the birds stomach and it is good for them? Insoluble means it does not break up and sits in the stomach and grinds up food, since budgies already have a gizzard they dont need this type of grit?? The grit I have is made up of small sea shells and ground up cuttle bone as far as I can see. I have not used it yet as I am getting mixed opinions on whether to use it or not. Some breeders use it and some do not. Is mine good for the birds or should I not use it?

 

THanks very very much for all the help.

You do not need to give them shell grit. They DON'T need it! Liv's egg is a double yolker as it has TWO yellow yolks in it.

I dont use that grit either.

Here is a great link with videos on the different stages and types of candled eggs ---- > HERE

 

 

Maybe it is just a disease the quails got and only quails can get it... my budgies and dove are fine. They were all huddled up in the feed dish when he found them.

 

Here is a quote from a site i found while looking into another topic

 

A symptom of Canker ---> HERE

Some poor specimens hover over the seed containers, furiously trying to eat.

Edited September 25, 200816 yr by **Liv**

There is an over the counter Broad spectrum aniti biotic that you can use i don't know if it is as strong as the doxcy but has the same active ingredients in it - It is an over the counter! Treatment for E.coli, Enteritis, Mycoplasma, Respiratiry Disease, Chlamydia Psittaci - If you have the Psittaci becareful when you are cleaning as we can catch that problem and it isn't a good thing ....

But as recommended a vets diagnosis is important so that you know you are treating the birds for the correct stuff with the right treatment ...

 

I candle my egg I will either pick them up or use the led light ( i have the detol hand sanitiser) which i use as eggs are very pourpus and I am a smoker so the nicotine on my hand can and will affect the eggs.

 

Maes I don't see a double yolker I see air and a yolk - But it isnt the best picture for me and I don't have my glasses on ( Can't remember where i put them .. No they aren't on my head I already checked twice :D)

 

Liv that looks like it is Insoluble to me - Mainly sea shells - and is rather chunky My opinion though -

 

There is a fantastic product out Can't remember the name is Looks like a small Pink brick I will see what it is called tomorrow ... They mainly use it for pigeons but it has all the trace minerals and vitamins as well as a good grit for birds

Edited September 25, 200816 yr by Neat