I have a pair of budgies that successfully laid 4 eggs all were fertile and each one has died in the process of hatching??? WHY??? It seems as though the shell is too thick or something!! I know it is cold now and there is a higher risk of dis but i am just wondering in case it maybe the hen or cock that have a problem? The babies were perfectly formed and made it into the air sack but died there. Does anyone have any ideas?

Edited October 16, 200816 yr by Neat

From what I am aware of DIS, is from a Chilled egg - Or a young that was unable to crack the shell with it's egg tooth. I think more expereice members with have an idea mate

Several things can create DIS...

Going cold... getting too hot, exhaustion, dehydration...illness and disease... too many to answer

Sometimes with chicks like that once they're chirping inside the egg I'll get them out if i know they're struggling.. others may let nature take it's course, it's all up to you... Just remember, chipping at the shell is not the same as chirping inside though

Ahhh. Thanks Libb i have added this to my notes too

Out of my 9 eggs last clutch, I had two DIS. One was chirping in the morning and both had little holes (but from Mum pecking in NOT chick pecking out) This was her first clutch so I don't know if she was helping them before they were ready or not. I tend to leave them, and both of them didn't make it. I figure maybe they weren't meant to be... I do feel guilty at times and think if I had of helped them, maybe they would be alive today, but on the other hand, if they were meant to be alive, they would have made it out. I guess it depends on how you choose to look at it. In past clutches I've also have DIS bubs that were under developed. They had died earlier on in development. This I would think would be due to being left unattended (and getting cold) or any of the other reasons Libby said. Hugs from me xo maesie xo

I never heard the babies chirp. I candled them and saw that they had broken through the air pocket they were like this for 24 hours still moving and everything but they didnt even attempt to chip the shell there were no holes in it at all? I have once tried to open the egg and help out and he died quite quickly afterwards. I think i would rather it die in the shell by itself then for me to help and then for it to die afterwards because I would blame myself?

Edited October 16, 200816 yr by Neat

I never heard the babies chirp. I candled them and saw that they had broken through the air pocket they were like this for 24 hours still moving and everything but they didnt even attempt to chip the shell there were no holes in it at all? I have once tried to open the egg and help out and he died quite quickly afterwards. I think i would rather it die in the shell by itself then for me to help and then for it to die afterwards because I would blame myself?

 

I agree, that's why I don't help. I'm sorry for your losses and maybe there will never be an explanation. You could try breeding them again. Maybe it has nothing to do with the cock and hen?

I have a pair of budgies that succesfuly laid 4 eggs all were fertile and each one has died in the process of hatching??? WHY??? It seems as though the shell is too thick or something!! I know it is cold now and there is a higher risk of dis but i am just wondering incase it maybe the hen or cock that have a problem? The babies were perfectly formed and made it into the air sack but died there. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Some breeders swear that it comes down to humidity, or more to the point lack of it. Has it been dry the past 10 days where you are?

 

I also think that some hens have a tendency to sit too tight on the eggs. A good mum will put aside an eggs that is about to hatch and many hens assist with the hatching process. But some hens are just too inexperienced and haven't figured it out yet.

 

Is the hen in question a maiden hen?

I have a pair of budgies that succesfuly laid 4 eggs all were fertile and each one has died in the process of hatching??? WHY??? It seems as though the shell is too thick or something!! I know it is cold now and there is a higher risk of dis but i am just wondering incase it maybe the hen or cock that have a problem? The babies were perfectly formed and made it into the air sack but died there. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Some breeders swear that it comes down to humidity, or more to the point lack of it. Has it been dry the past 10 days where you are?

 

I also think that some hens have a tendency to sit too tight on the eggs. A good mum will put aside an eggs that is about to hatch and many hens assist with the hatching process. But some hens are just too inexperienced and haven't figured it out yet.

 

Is the hen in question a maiden hen?

 

I am not sure i got her when i brought the aviary so i do not know how old she is. She probably did sit to tight on the eggs though because she has a problem with her leg so she likes to stay in the box all day. I am just really upset by it because the parents are both spangles so i was crossing my fingers for a df spangle and they ALL completely formed and i saw them start to hatch i got all excited and then nothing.

Edited October 16, 200816 yr by Neat

I know how frustrated you feel, because 2 years ago when I was breeding just some pet type budgies I managed to get 4 separate clutches and not a single chick managed to made it. 1st clutch Hen fantastic sitter when at egg stage but as soon as they hatched failed to sit at all and all died. Being a new Mum I decided I would let her lay another clutch 2nd clutch and hope she had learnt from her first, but no she let her first chick also die so I felt I had no option but to take the last two as they hatched to try and hand rear them but unfortunately to no avail. 3rd clutch another pairing produced 3 eggs but only 2 hatched, 1 dying shortly after hatching as it was dead still under hen when I checked for hatched chicks and then the other chick lived for about 1 week before dying, I think because being by itself the hen sat too tight, which I didn't know about back then and am upset to think that just a couple of marbles may have been enough to prevent this. The last 4th clutch, was in a colony nest box and was totally my fault as I only had 1 extra nest box compared to pairings for the aviary so the clutch of eggs got smash (I'm assuming) from another bird. Amazing how much you can learn in just a short time and this site is just amazingly fantastic!!

Keep your chin up as at the moment I only have 3 breeding pairs up (no more colony breeding for this little black duck) and have 3 beautiful chicks ranging from 4 days to 10 days old and seem to be doing very well. And both my other pairings I discovered 1 egg in each of their nest boxes just today :hap: so here's hoping all go well. Good Luck to you in the future.

Carolyn alais: Budgielover13

Edited October 16, 200816 yr by Neat
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:hap: I am going to visit you tomorrow

 

We'll get everything sorted. If we stop having Chin ways and Scones

Edited August 13, 200816 yr by Neat

:hap: I am going to visit you tomorrow

 

We'll get everything sorted. If we stop having Chin ways and Scones

 

Flour - check, Milk - check, Cream - check, Jam - check, okay scones we are good to go!!!!