Deb, What were the other babies from this nest? I am going to assume that there were Spangles in there and that this one is a DF

 

 

i only ended up with 3 from this nest, Roxy is one and she is a blue opaline spangle and the other hen is a blue spangle then i have this male which has me confused because i thought if he was born with plum eyes that he would be all white. so can you have a df spangle that is not pure white or pure yellow? Mutations still confuse me, i thought df spangles had to be basically one colour.

Sometimes when they are masking something it can show through, especially a 'strong' gene like dom pied

DF spangles as a rule should be all white and all yellow, however they get plumage faults. Suffision is what you can see, which is where body colour is washing over the base colour when it shouldn't be. The same happens with Ino's

Ahhhhhhhhh

Thanks Libby for the explanation of the df spangles.

Welcome

These are the pics of Deb's budgie

 

Don't you just love those BIG BLACK BUTTON EYES

 

He is still BEAUTIFUL

Gorgeous, definatly a DF

 

As promised, here's my YF2 DF spangle

 

- She has bad suffision, just like yours And was also born with plum eyes

Edited July 23, 200816 yr by *libby*

Something i did not notice but Daz pointed out from the picture he saw in MB's post is that he has a orange beak so is that normal for a spangle or is he carrying pied.

Edited July 23, 200816 yr by deb

I'm not too sure on that, i'd have to look at all of mine, there should be rules to what they look liek somewhere, plus he is a bub, so that may factor in

that is a recessive pied gene

It would be really interesting if we all put our badly suffused birds ith a recessive pied mate to see whether we got pied chicks :sad:

It would be really interesting if we all put our badly suffused birds ith a recessive pied mate to see whether we got pied chicks

 

 

I was thinking the same way as you last night MB,as soon as i saw the orange beak i thought the first hen i pair him with when he is old enough will be a pied so i will be able to test if it does mean he is carrying the pied gene.

Even though the bird in question seems to have come from a DF Spangle Mum & a SF Spangles Dad, it seems highly likely that it is a DF Spangles, but to me the Blue looks more than just suffusion, it is confined to a definite area & quite strong, whereas suffusions would also show in the wing feathers. I think that the Orange beak is only because the bird is of a light colour. If you mated it with a Recessive Pied & got no Pied chicks I would mate it to a Normal that had as far as possible no splits & see what you get.

All of my DF's with suffision have none on their wings due to their markings stripping it and giving them white/yellow wings naturally.