Hi all, my name is Chrissy and I'm new to the site. I've been searching the internet for about 6 months now on as much info on Budgies as I can. I have 8 Budgies of my own. I was hoping to get some "genetics" help from people who take this serious. Many of my keets are showing signs of bonding and breeding behaviours and I'd like to learn as much about my pairs as possible so I can do history history any babies that are born. So here goes some of my question if any of you could help...

 

I am having a hard time identifying my birds colors and mutations... So based on the descriptions below can you tell me what full "make up" each keet is? (I would attach pics but I can't figure it out????)

 

I have:

 

1. Pure white red eyes, pink cere - i'm sure this is an Albino, but not 100% sure it's a male

2. Yellow and green chest/belly, green back/rump, mainly yellow wings, upper shoulders, upper wings and very top of head have black stripes, all yellow flight feathers, all yellow tail, and yellow band from ear to ear on back of head, creamy pinish blue cere - I think this is a young female dominate pied clearwing??

3. White face, blue chest, white belley, white circle on back of head, mainly white wings, white flight feathers, black stripes down head, upper shoulders and upper wings, blueish tail feathers, white cere with pale blue near nostrils - I think this is also a young female dominate pied, but not sure if it's a true clear wing cause the tail is dark??

4. Yellow face, grey stripes down head and wings, faint yellow wings, light green (teal?) body and tail feathers, blue cere - I think this is a yellowface deluted greywing mature male??

5. White face, all grey body, faint light black stripes down head leading to black stripes on wings, dark brown cere - I think this is a mature female opaline??

6. Yellow face, all green body, faint light black stripes down head leading to black stripes on wings, blue cere - I think this is a mature male opaline??

7. White face, all blue body, dark black stripes down head and wings, creamy cere with pale blue around nostrils - I think this is a young normal female??

8. Yellow chest, green belly, yellow tail feathers, green back, yellow face, random black lines by eyes and neck with black stripes on wings, tan cere - I think this is a resessive pied female?

 

Anyone that can help I would appreciate it.

Thank you

Chrissy

I am hopeless with genetics - but there are some very talanted members who will be able to help you in this department

 

I just want to say, Hello and Welcome

I can guess, but I would rather decide from pictures. Can you post some photos ?

I can guess, but I would rather decide from pictures. Can you post some photos ?

 

 

I have a ton of pics. Can you tell me how to post it. I read the directions but can't find the "photobucket" to do it??? Sorry I'm lost on how to upload my pics and hoping they are the right size and can be posted??? Please help ?

Agree with Kaz, guesstimations can be made, but it would be much easier to be definate with photos.

Photo bucket is a separate website that hosts photos and videos. Their address is: www.photobucket.com

 

You will need to sign up and make an account, then upload your photos to it and then you will be able tto posr your photos here. The photos need to be under 640px by 480px in size and photobucket has editing options that will let you change the size of your photos

Edited July 10, 200817 yr by **Liv**

Photo bucket is a separate website that hosts photos and videos. Their address is: www.photobucket.com You will need to sign up and make an account, then upload your photos to it and then you will be able tto posr your photos here. The photos need to be under 640px by 480px in size and photobucket has editing options that will let you change the size of your photos

Thank you so much... I am doing it now and will have pics up as soon as they are done uploading.... your help is appreciated. )These first two pics are the eight keets I spoke about in my original post. Please help?

 

These are just a few extra shots of some of the keets if they help.

Edited July 11, 200817 yr by Nerwen
editing pictures so page shows correctly

I couldn't see the gender on them all... but this is my (poor) guess on their types

 

 

Some or all the the greens might be Yellow Face type 2's,

I will be corrected where i am wrong

 

Oh, and Your other one is a normal grey hen

 

Oh.... AND your albino either had some food stuck to the cere or it could be mild scaly face which will need to be treated.

Edited July 10, 200817 yr by **Liv**

I couldn't see the gender on them all... but this is my (poor) guess on their types

 

 

Some or all the the greens might be Yellow Face type 2's,

I will be corrected where i am wrong

 

Oh, and Your other one is a normal grey hen

 

Oh.... AND your albino either had some food stuck to the cere or it could be mild scaly face which will need to be treated.

 

 

Liv -

 

Thank you so much for your help. I am surprised they grey one is "normal" it looked opaline to me cause the lines on her

head are thin and faint, but that may be because she's grey?? And I thought my Cinnamon was greywinged too?? Goes to show what i know.

 

I'll see if I have more pics that might look different.

 

Thank you again for being so kind. )

Liv has done a great job ID-ing your birds The grey could be opaline but another photo would help. Try not to use the flash on your camera as it throws colours off a little. If you cannot turn off your flash cover it with tape.

Edited July 10, 200817 yr by KAZ

The grey is normal. The 'cinnamon' is actually a grey wing looking at the picture, not a cinnamon.

This grey IS opaline.

And the green cinnamon wing appears to be a YF by the body colour, could be either cinnamon or greywing... Can you get a better picture of that one without flash?

I agree that the grey is opaline. I could only see the bottom picture before.

 

I am saying grey wing because you can see the grey tips on the larger secondaries.

 

 

 

 

 

Also as a request, when you post pictures can you post only one per line so that they are underneath each other. It makes iy very hard to read the post when photos are lined up next to each other.

Also as a request, when you post pictures can you post only one per line so that they are underneath each other. It makes iy very hard to read the post when photos are lined up next to each other.

 

You must have a BIG monitor - they are under each other on my (laptop) screen hehe

Here are some more pics maybe they will help?? You all are so helpful and I can't thank you enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Still looks cinnamon to me - but i do see the grey flights .... weird

 

They grey hen needs a picture of her back to see the wing markings and the back of her neck

Flash used on most of these shots is affecting chances to see the colours as they really are

You're still washing out the greywing/cinnamons colour with flash... try a picture without it and try to capture the tail in this also

The grey is still definatly an opaline.

okay, thank you all... I will take more (better) pics tomorrow and post them. I really can't thank you all enough. I must praise this site and it's posters... this is the most helpful site I have been to. Other sites have people who reply to questions with "play them a slow song and bring them flowers to get them to breed..." or "I don't know but last I check Crayola says this is BLUE"...

 

I have a passion for these birds, their welfare, and any offspring that may occur and I appreciate the honest, serious replies you are all giving me. Too many people breed animals (including keets) with total ingornance to it and animals are hurt or die because of their stupidity and I don't want to be one of those people.

 

Thank you again and have a good night.

okay, thank you all... I will take more (better) pics tomorrow and post them. I really can't thank you all enough. I must praise this site and it's posters... this is the most helpful site I have been to. Other sites have people who reply to questions with "play them a slow song and bring them flowers to get them to breed..." or "I don't know but last I check Crayola says this is BLUE"...

 

I have a passion for these birds, their welfare, and any offspring that may occur and I appreciate the honest, serious replies you are all giving me. Too many people breed animals (including keets) with total ingornance to it and animals are hurt or die because of their stupidity and I don't want to be one of those people.

 

Thank you again and have a good night.

 

 

some answers you have been given on the other forums are hilarious :hap:

 

By the way....we are very glad to have you here and WELCOME :hap:

Hehehe I cracked up laughing when i read your subject

sorry .... I assumed that you used Yahoo Question & Answers

or other ........ site that is ****

Welcome to the Best Place on the WEB

BBC ...

 

 

P.S Nice birds

Good morning. As promised here are some new pics from this morning, not using a flash, of my two birds in question. Looking to see if my "grey" bird is grey/violet?? (what dark factor) and if she is Opaline or not. Also looking to see if my "greywing" is greywing or cinnamon, if he is deluted or not, if he's opaline, if he is yellowface or not and if so is he type I or II??? So take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your "grey girl" is a mauve opaline.

The other one is a greywing and is split to recessive

 

agree with Kaz, mauve opaline and a yf2 sky greywing split to recessive

What does a "split to recessive" mean... ? I've read that before on this site, but what is "split" and he is "recessive" to what??? I'm confused?

agree with Kaz, mauve opaline and a yf2 sky greywing split to recessive

When you say "sky" you are talking about dark factor/color... meaning he's sky blue no dark factor?