Is there such thing as pain medication for birds????

 

Is there a mild natural form of pain killers for budgies that would take the egde off?? Eg. a leaf from a particular plant or something???

I ask because moulting budgies get pain from their new feathers while they have the blood in them and it must be uncomfortable because they get really cranky and unhappy. can we give pain meds to a moulting bird like we give panadol to a teething baby.???

There is moulting aid for moulting budgies

But thats just vitimins... It wont take away the pain of the forming blood feathers

Some budgies just breeze through a moult and some seem to suffer. I watch out for those that are struggling through the moult and if they look a little OFF, not well etc....I pull them and give them time in the kindie cage with youngsters and a warm lamp, good food etc. It helps.

Pain meds ? No...you would have to know what to give, how much and if they really neeed it. I dont think they need pain meds but I do give some special treatment if they are having a rough time of it.

Liv do some research and see if budgies are allowed willow branches. The natural chemical which is now synthesised as paracetamol comes from the willow tree bark.

Cool, Thanks Kaz. I was only curious if there was anything they could have to take away the moulting grumps. Latte and Cookie are having their first moult - I didn't want to make them suffer if there was something I could give them Their diet is already good and i give them a multi vitamin 2 days a week while moulting too

MB willow is fine ... Hey Never knew that one.

 

I was going to look up naturapathic (sp) remedies

I'm reaching way back into the recesses of my brain here but I believe the native peoples of wherever willow comes from used to chew the bark...I think

That sounds really interesting MB I wonder if they would like it and i wonder if they would understand what it is. Wild birds dont sit on it and get high all day so they must know about it.....?????

They might enjoy tearing the bark off just like any other branch and take in some of the chemical that way. Not sure they would actually understand the significance of it though.

Hangon! I'll reaching way back into the recesses of my brain as well!

 

Reaching, Reaching

 

No! Got Nothing!!

 

Mine only goes as far back as yesterday !

Edited June 30, 200817 yr by throwback

Clutching at straws TB

Clutching at straws TB

 

 

I have a 24 ounce hammer in my tool belt you can borrow .

:hap: :D

If it helps we had an old mare that use to be in pain when she ovulated due to a cyst (sp??) anyway she would chew on the willow trees areound certain times and seemed happier. The vet told us that it is a natural pain killer but not that great in taste so animals will work out it helps but will steer clear of it if they don't need it as it is taste nasty. However we did have a bull that use to chew it so much and.... well... lets just say the cows where not as happy as they should have been we moved him into a yard with no overhanging willows and then we gots lots more calves and happier cows so it might be a try and see type thing.

Edited July 1, 200817 yr by Angelic Vampyre

Thanks AV, that's really interesting info - If the animals know it's properties but don't like the taste (except for your bull who had "troubles" ) then it's possibly okay to let birds self medicate.... Now to see if the blood thinning property is dangerous for budgies

I would say yes with the blood thinning !!

The chemical is highly concentrated in tablet form. I don't think there would be any problems in it's natural form.

The chemical is highly concentrated in tablet form. I don't think there would be any problems in it's natural form.

Well your the ex vet nurse MB you would know !!!!

I wish I did know all that sort of stuff Neat. It's all a bit hit and miss in the end but given the concentrations will be much lower I don't see any issues.

By Paulina Jenkins

 

 

Willow bark is an ancient alternative medicine. We know this from the ancient manuscripts of the Assyrian, the Egyptian and the Greek. The Egyptians used it as a remedy for inflammation. Hippocrates, Dioscorides and Galen the Greek physicians used Willow bark to reduce fever and sooth lower back pain, inflamed joints and other pains. Since 500BC the Chinese have used it to relieve pain and fever. Willow bark was also used by the American natives to control sexual desire.

 

Willow bark is also called Salix alba and White willow. It is a tree commonly found in southern and central Europe, and central and western Asia. Very often it is called nature's aspirin. The salicylic acid in aspirin is responsible for the pain relief properties. Willow bark is also rich in this active component.

 

Willow bark is an effective painkiller often used for pain as a result of inflammation. These include joint pain, back pain, rheumatism, gout and arthritis. It reduces fever and gives relief to headache, colds and flu. Willow bark boosts metabolism and is beneficial for weight loss. Americans during the colonial days used Willow bark to treat food poisoning, gout, fever and inflammation. It is of benefits for gastrointestinal disorders such as heartburn, colic and sour stomach. This herb can be used externally as an antiseptic to treat burns, wounds, cuts, sores, dandruff and tonsillitis.

 

Generally Willow bark is well tolerated and safe. Pregnant and nursing women must not take this herb. If you have a reaction to aspirin, you must avoid using Willow bark. For those who are undergoing surgery they should avoid taking Willow bark two weeks before and after the operation. This herb could interfere with wound healing and bleeding disorder. It also interacts with some prescription drugs.

 

Sufferers of gastritis and ulcers should avoid using Willow bark. For those who have any liver or kidney conditions Willow bark will aggravate the problem. This herb is not recommended for people with blood clot disorders. Children with chickenpox, viral infection and fever must also not be given this herb. Continual or long term use of Willow bark is not advisable. This could affect sexual desire and damage stomach, kidney and liver.

 

Willow bark comes in the form of tablets, capsules, tea or tincture. 400mg 3 times daily is the standard dosage. A tea can be made by pouring 250 ml of boiling water over 1000mg of Willow bark leaves and let steep. Results from clinical studies have found that combining feverfew and Willow bark produce better effect for a minority of migraine sufferers.

 

Willow bark remains a favourite remedy by herbalists for arthritis, fevers, inflammation, headaches, body pain and heart disease. Researches have confirmed that it produces better result than aspirin. There are other active ingredients found in Willow bark that are not contained in aspirin. It also shows a longer lasting relief than aspirin and does not cause any stomach upset.

 

My Dad said that he use to put it in with the budgies that had aches and pains in the hospital cage with them for a few hours each day and watch for any reaction (he never had a budgie have a bad reaction)

 

Only think he found is cocks who had been on a treatment (one got his foot stuck in a hole in a flight and we thought he had broken it) where not upto breeding for a good 6 months after being taken off the willow bark. That might be because of the injury or the willow bark we will never know.

WOW!! great info AV!!!!! Thanks for posting that.

I suffer migraines and we have a willow tree in our neighborhood - might just need to get some leaves to have ready for a tea next time one hits - see how it works

 

Very interesting that your dad gave it to his birds. I would really hope it didn't take 6 months for the boys to "recover" after taking it though ..... --- I don't think it will be a medication i will be game to use for mere moulting crankies though. Good to know if any get (non bleeding related) pain

Edited July 1, 200817 yr by **Liv**