Still believe it is a fallow recessive pied, however, if it came from a dutch pied background it may be a fallow double dutch pied. Will be interesting to see if it develops an iris ring or not, and what offspring it produces when paired with partners of known background.

These are the three other birds that I recieved at the same time, they are pretty typical of most of her birds:

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 200817 yr by melbournebudgies

If the bird returns to good health, I would encourage you to hang onto it and test breed with a normal blue series bird (preferably one that you believe isn't split for anything - though this is not always achievable) and then line breed the offspring to determine what genes it is carrying. Keep records.

 

As a side note, when breeders are planning to produce dark-eyed clears, the first step is putting a clearflighted dutch pied to a recessive pied. Some offspring produced will be clearflighted pieds and they will be split for recessive pied, these splits are paired back together in some breeding programs, so a number of normal recessive pied offspring may be produced as one of a number of possible side products, along with the dark-eyed clears. The other side products are usually sold to pet shops or other breeders and these are often clearflighted pieds that are split for recessive pied.

 

I got a nice surprise when I paired a lovely clearflight violet hen I found in a pet shop with a yellowface blue squire split for recessive pied, out popped a couple of normal recessive pieds, some clearflighted pieds and a couple of yellowfaced dark-eyed clears. So she must have been split for recessive pied also.

 

There are strains of recessive pied fallows getting around as well, recessive pieds with red-eyes.

Will do DrNat, she is healthy now, just looking scruffy after her treatment. Once she moults out the ugly feathers she should be a beauty.

 

I don't have a recessive pied. I kinda want to try and get some pink eyed whites (ie. non inos). I was thinking about putting her to my spangle fallow male, since she is also spangle I guess I would have a chance of DF spangle pink eyed whites?

Will do DrNat, she is healthy now, just looking scruffy after her treatment. Once she moults out the ugly feathers she should be a beauty.

 

I don't have a recessive pied. I kinda want to try and get some pink eyed whites (ie. non inos). I was thinking about putting her to my spangle fallow male, since she is also spangle I guess I would have a chance of DF spangle pink eyed whites?

 

That sounds like a good option, if she is a fallow all your offspring will be fallow, some may be spangle versions, some may be normal, if she is a dominant pied variety, you may get some dominant pied versions of normal and spangle fallows, if she is a recessive pied, the offspring will be splits. Put her to that male for a few rounds to get a larger number of offspring for more conclusive results. At any rate, they will be very very nice birds.

After looking at all the options presented I am fairly sure she is a violet dom pied(dutch) spangle fallow. She has violet across her chest and the head spot just showing. The violet on her chest is very pale(almost not there) and darker on her rump. She has the red eyes of the fallow.