The "artificial ino" is any budgerigar which looks identical to a Lutino or Albino but actually isn't one.

 

Ken Yorke

 

Anyone got any history on artificially created inos?

 

How do you tell the difference?

 

 

Derek

Double factor spangle fallows (look like inos but sometimes have grey, blue or violet cheek patches instead of white, may not have iris ring, and sometimes have pinkish-grey feet instead of fleshy pink feet)

Fallow version of dark-eyed clears (no iris ring, orange beak)

Double factor spangle lacewings (sometimes violet cheek patches instead of white, sometimes spangled cinnamon markings show through - lacewing is a cinnamon ino linkage anyway)

Double factor spangle recessive pieds (some recessive pied lines have red eyes - probably fallow related, violet or silvery white cheek patches, orange beak, no iris ring)

 

And I suspect that a clearbody clearwing fallow would probably look like an ino with violet cheek patches, pinkish-blue-grey feet and may or may not have iris ring too. I'll try to breed some and see what happens.

I have one here that comes close. I think she is a double factor spangle fallow or maybe pied I think. She has a couple of spangle markings on her wings but other than that she is basically clear except for a very faint violet sheen on her rump and maybe her chest. I suspect that as a result of the df spangle she has lost the cobalt base but somehow kept the violet from over the top. I unfortunately need to wait until she moults to confirm this as she is a rescue and was treated for an injury with a cream that has left her feathers dirty brown so it is hard to see her true markings but what she has is definately only a faint sheen rather than a true deep violet colour. She has red eyes with iris rings

Apparently the German Fallow has a white iris ring making it almost impossible to detect.

Got any pictures of this bird MB?

Here she is, if anyone can tell me what she is it would be greta because I am at a loss. The closest I can figure is a fallow, the few odd markings on her wings(the ones on the other side are even less) are cinamon not black but like I say she only has a shadow of colour not proper fallow colouring on the rump. You can see how dirty she is, and it won't wash off so she'll have to moult it out! The barring on her head is only right near the top and I expect it will disappear completely after she moults(se is only a baby as you can probably tell)...By the way I checked and I am officially going mad as she does not have iris rings but she may get them when she is older.

 

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by melbournebudgies

Looks like a baby with LONG Feathers ..... Feather duster in the making ????

> But hey I am not expert ... just looks wrong that is all .....

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by Neat

Ummm... maybe it's late and my brain's nt working Neat but I didn't understand a word you just said ...on another note I have had a good look over her and she has a clear patch on the back of her head like a dom pied and the few spangls she has are in the top quarter of her wings like a dom pied and the violet sheen is faintly on her chest and rump...like a dom pied BUT she has red eyes

Ummm... maybe it's late and my brain's nt working Neat but I didn't understand a word you just said

 

LOL that is because you read it before i could edit it hahaha ...

 

Unless like you I have been awake too long the picture looks like a young budgie ,

But it looks wrong ..To me .... Looks like the feathers are vey long ...

How old is it??

She is about 4-5 months old so yes she is young...they look long in that photo but they aren't in real life. I think it is just because of her dodgy foot that is on a funny angle, makes the photo look odd.

feather dusters is an illness... I'm not really good at discribing it but if you do a search for feather dusters you should come across something..

I'm pretty positive she isn't a feather duster. Her dodgy feathers and foot are due to an attack from a hen when she was a baby, we are waiting for her to moult and grow her feathers back and get rid of her dirty feathers(due to a cream that was put on her)

Looks a bit like a Dominant Pied Fallow to me.

Well there we go, if her clear feathers were even more spread then that is one way to get a bird that looks ino but isn't A pied bird with no colour but crossed with a red eyed variety so that you see the red eyes.

 

Also what about a DF spangle fallow :hap: Both my fallows are spangle also so theoretically I could produce a DF spangle with the red eyes of the fallow.

I agree with norm... a very dirty, but clearly distinguishable dom pied fallow. Probably spangled also.What were the parents?No, DF spanles have no markings. So when fallow would be mixed with the df spangle gene your bird would look the equivelant of an ino... yours still has markings and body colour so is only a single factor spangle pied. Spangle cross spangle doesn't produce 100% df's.

Wasn't suggesting mine was a df just that it was one way you could get a 'artificial ino'

 

Why would her colour be so faint? Would that just be that her marking colour is cinnamon?

Ah my bad, got mixed up. yes it is a way

Her colours light because she's fallow. They're par -no and their body colour is only strongest on their rump. That mixed in with the pied gene that also makes it patchy will be why she shows very little.

Cool, I'm so impatient for her to moult and get rid of these revolting feathers so I can see her colour properly. Her foot is a worry but if she can perch okay she would have some beautiful babies I think.

Fallow recessive pied

It certainly could be a Recessive Pied as DrNat says, as we have little to go on, if you knew it’s parents that would help. But I’m still sticking to Dominant Pied & it certainly could be Spangle also as the markings look light.

 

I would think that a Double Factor Spangle Fallow [blue series White] would be pretty hard to pick from an Albino, I would think you would either have to test mate it or know it’s parents, as from the DF Spangle the bird would be completely White & then if the Fallow made the eyes Red, it would be very difficult.

 

The Green series bird [Yellow] would be very pale Yellow, as some said a bit like a Creamino.

 

Seeing your bird is a hen MB it should be able to breed, a cock probably might have trouble, it’s only an injury isn’t it, not a genetic fault?

Yes it is just an injury. She is also missing a few feathers on her back which we are doubtful whether they will grow back but we'll see when she starts to moult. There is a good chance she comes from a dom pied background as she is from the woman that I got all my danish pied birds from.

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/kyorke/p225.htm

 

danish pied = recessive pied = harlequin (same type of bird different names)

Sorry I got myself confused, I meant dutch pied

I just think she's cute :nest:

She is cute, but in the same way as a scrappy stray dog that's missing half it's fur :nest: