How do you know what the difference is between a df spangle (yellow) and a dark eyed clear? I have three birds that are all yellow i thought they were lutino at first but they are missing the red eyes and they have the white rings in their eyes? also i have googled them both and the photos look identical? Can anyone help me?

Also what would happen if you put df to df or black eye clear to black eye clear?what would the babies be? or does it depend on the family history?

I am assuming you mean to tell the difference if you want to know genetic differences let me know.

 

Dark Eye Cleared: no iris ring, male cere stays pink

Double Factor Spangle: iris ring with regular colored eyes, male cere will change to blue

Lutino/Ino: Iris ring with red eyes, male cere stays pink

 

You can click on this link to see the member's different mutations, find those 3 mutations to see the difference visually. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=14564

 

Double Factor x Double Factor will = all Double Factor of that gene here you are saying Spangle

 

Double Factor Spangle to Dark Eyed Clear (combo of a recessive pied & clearflight pied): I believe I am doing this right I am not completely sure but the DFS would have to have the recessive pied gene also to have more DEC because they would need 1 from each parent

 

As for the DF spangle, you would also have normals, clearflights, and single factor spangles and there could be combinations with the different mutation. I am sure there is someone more into % then I that can tell you that.

Edited April 13, 200817 yr by Elly

I am assuming you mean to tell the difference if you want to know genetic differences let me know.

 

Dark Eye Cleared: no iris ring, male cere stays pink

Double Factor Spangle: iris ring with regular colored eyes, male cere will change to blue

Lutino/Ino: Iris ring with red eyes, male cere stays pink

 

You can click on this link to see the member's different mutations, find those 3 mutations to see the difference visually. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=14564

 

Double Factor x Double Factor will = all Double Factor of that gene here you are saying Spangle

 

Double Factor Spangle to Dark Eyed Clear (combo of a recessive pied & clearflight pied): I believe I am doing this right I am not completely sure but the DFS would have to have the recessive pied gene also to have more DEC because they would need 1 from each parent

 

As for the DF spangle, you would also have normals, clearflights, and single factor spangles and there could be combinations with the different mutation. I am sure there is someone more into % then I that can tell you that.

 

Thanks elly,

I am still new to the mutations world and i am finding it quite confusing! can i ask you another question? I was told to put my opaline texas clearbody to a albino i read somewhere in here that they recommend putting it to a lutino do you know what the difference would be in the outcomes?

What colour is your Texas Clearbody? If it is Blue & you wish to get more Blue series TCB’s… an Albion would be good.

 

If its Green series [Yellow] & you want more Green series a Lutino is best.

 

If its Green & you pair it to an Albino & the Green is split for Blue you probably will get some of both colours, If it isn’t split for Blue all chicks would be Green split for Blue.

 

If your birds have iris rings, like Elly says they are DF Spangles.

What colour is your Texas Clearbody? If it is Blue & you wish to get more Blue series TCB's… an Albion would be good.

 

If its Green series [Yellow] & you want more Green series a Lutino is best.

 

If its Green & you pair it to an Albino & the Green is split for Blue you probably will get some of both colours, If it isn't split for Blue all chicks would be Green split for Blue.

 

If your birds have iris rings, like Elly says they are DF Spangles.

 

Thanks again norm,

i might just pair the two tcb's together and see what happens does that mean i would get 50 blue/50 green?