Posted April 1, 200817 yr 1. Dominant Varieties Can a dominant pied be split Fallow? Can a fallow be split dominant pied. Name the varieties I would get from pairing Spangle cock to a spangle hen. 2. Recessive Variet What variety do I get if I mate: A greywing cock to a greywing hen. A clearwing Cock with a normal / clearwing hen A fallow cock to a normal hen Colours Name the three colours of green Name the three colours of blue. Name the other two colours. 3. Sex Linked varieties. Name all possible outcomes of these matings. Normal Cock to an Opaline Hen Opaline Cock to a Cinnamon Hen Normal/opaline Cock to a normal Hen 4. Lat one. Name all possible outcome of these matings (Colour/Variety/sex) Lutino Cock to a green opaline hen Grey Cinnamon /lacewing cock and a blue cinnamon hen. light green dominant pied / opaline cock and a skyblue normal hen light green opaline cinnamon cock to a light green spangle hen. Assume all birds are pure with nothing hinding in the back ground.
April 1, 200817 yr 1. Dominant Varieties Can a dominant pied be split Fallow? yes Can a fallow be split dominant pied. yes Name the varieties I would get from pairing Spangle cock to a spangle hen. Spangles, Normals and Daouble factor spangles 2. Recessive Variet What variety do I get if I mate: A greywing cock to a greywing hen. Grey wings .... A clearwing Cock with a normal / clearwing hen normal / clearwing , clearwings A fallow cock to a normal hen Normal/Fallow , Fallows Colours Name the three colours of green Light Green Dark Green and Olive Name the three colours of blue. Blue, Colbalt, Mauve Name the other two colours. Skyblue Violet 3. Sex Linked varieties. Name all possible outcomes of these matings. Normal Cock to an Opaline Hen Normal, Normal/Opaline, opaline Opaline Cock to a Cinnamon Hen 1/2 Opalines 1/2 Cinnamons Normal/opaline Cock to a normal Hen Normal/Opalines, Normals, Opalines 4. Lat one. Name all possible outcome of these matings (Colour/Variety/sex) Lutino Cock to a green opaline hen okay NO IT'S GETTING VERY HARD (Colour/Variety/sex) Won't even try it i am stufying the gentics now (Laughing out loud) ... Lutino's/ Cremino's and darn it ... Grey Cinnamon /lacewing cock and a blue cinnamon hen. okay Grey is Dominate over Blue , Cinnamon is Dom too and Lace wing is sexlinked so ... Grey Cinnamons/ and I am sure there will be a blue in there somewhere light green dominant pied / opaline cock and a skyblue normal hen Lutino's Opalines and there will be a Blue one My answers may suck but I really want to give it ago ... light green opaline cinnamon cock to a light green spangle hen. Ummmm..... They are all Dominate genes so I haven't a clue Assume all birds are pure with nothing hinding in the back ground. okay Daz give it to me gently ...... *Fingers crossed at least 50% Right Please
April 2, 200817 yr Author Well Neat's had a good go. I'l post my answers at the end of the week. I didn't do this Quiz or have the answers. It is from my club. I have forwarded my answers to the club for checking so we will see how I go. :budgiedance:
April 2, 200817 yr 1. Dominant Varieties Can a dominant pied be split Fallow? > yes Can a fallow be split dominant pied. > no, the dominant pied would visually affect the fallow markings. Name the varieties I would get from pairing Spangle cock to a spangle hen. > 25% DF Spangle, 25% normal, 50% SF Spangle 2. Recessive Variety, What variety do I get if I mate: A greywing cock to a greywing hen. >100% greywing assuming both parents are carrying 2 greywing genes each rather than 1 greywing and 1 dilute >>> {if both parents have only 1 greywing gene (expressed) and 1 dilute gene (recessive to greywing on same allele) then it would be possible to have 75% greywing and 25% dilute.} A clearwing Cock with a normal / clearwing hen > 50% normal /clearwing, 50% clearwing A fallow cock to a normal hen > 100% normal /fallow Colours Name the three colours of green > light green, dark green, olive Name the three colours of blue. > sky, cobalt, mauve Name the other two colours. >yellow & white, or violet & grey / greygreen…. Which two are you looking for? 3. Sex Linked varieties. Name all possible outcomes of these matings. Normal Cock to an Opaline Hen > 50% normal male /opaline, 50% normal female Opaline Cock to a Cinnamon Hen > 50% normal male /opaline /cinnamon, 50% opaline female Normal/opaline Cock to a normal Hen >25% normal male, 25% normal male /opaline, 25% normal female, 25% opaline female 4. Last one. Name all possible outcome of these matings (Colour/Variety/sex) Lutino Cock to a green opaline hen >50% normal male /lutino /opaline, 50% lutino female Grey Cinnamon /lacewing cock and a blue cinnamon hen. >Lacewing is a combination of cinnamon and ino.. so in other words the grey cinnamon cock is cinnamon split to albinism (Ino) technically. Also the grey could be in single or double factor form, visually the same. >>If SF grey: 12.5% grey male cinnamon /ino, 12.5% blue male cinnamon /ino, 12.5% grey male cinnamon, 12.5% blue male cinnamon, 12.5% white lacewing female, 12.5% white lacewing female /grey, 12.5% grey female cinnamon, 12.5% blue female cinnamon. >>If DF grey: 25% grey male cinnamon /ino, 25% grey male cinnamon, 25% female white lacewing, 25% grey female cinnamon light green dominant pied / opaline cock and a skyblue normal hen >Pied: 50% dominant pied, 50% normal >Opaline: 25% normal male, 25% normal male /opaline, 25% normal female, 25% opaline female >Color: 50% light green, 50% light green /blue light green opaline cinnamon cock to a light green spangle hen. > 25% light green male spangle /opaline /cinnamon, 25% light green male /opaline /cinnamon, %25 light green female spangle opaline cinnamon, 25% light green female opaline cinnamon Edited April 2, 200817 yr by Ravengypsy
April 7, 200817 yr Author Sorry it late.... Here are my answers: *Dominant Pied can be split Fallow. *Fallow can not be split Dominant Pied *Normals, Single Factor Spangle & Double Factor Spangle. *All greywing offspring. *Clearwings and Normal Split Clearwings *All Normals split fallow *Light green, Dark Green and Olive *Sky Blue, Cobalt and Mauve. *Grey and Violet. *Normal split Opaline cocks and normal hens *Normal cocks split Opaline and cinnamon and Opaline Hens. *Normal Cocks and Normal Split cocks and Normal Hens and Opaline Hens. *Green Cocks split opaline and lutino and Lutino Hens. *Grey cinnamon cocks, blue cinnamon Cocks both split lacewing and Grey cinnamon Hens, Blue cinnamon Hens and white Lacewing Hens *Light green dominant pied cocks, Light green normal cocks (both split opaline and blue) and Light green Dominant pied Hens, Light green Normal Hens and Light green Dominant pied Oplaine hens (all split blue) *Light green Normal Cocks, Light green Spangle cocks (all split Opaline and cinnamon) and Light green Opaline cinnamon hens and light green Spangle Opaline cinnamon hens.
April 8, 200817 yr Nice effort. On lacewings: http://www.euronet.nl/users/hnl/lacewing.htm My understanding of lacewing is that the lacewing effect is expressed when a "linkage" or joining together of cinnamon and ino genes on the one sex chromosome by chromosomes intermingling and swapping genetic material occurs (not exactly the same as inheriting cinnamon on one chromosome and ino on the other). Ofcourse, it could be something entirely different that happens to get tangled up with cinnamon and ino genes. Don't know. I wonder if it is possible for the gene to unlink again and the odd ino hen to come out of that pairing? Neat, on budgie colours: Forget about everything else for a moment. Then visualise this: At a basic level budgie feathers are white to start with. White budgie. Add black melanin/eumelanin pigments to give them the black stripes and the 'blue' sheen through their body (a bit like if you put black ink in your skin to tattoo your arm, it looks kind of blue). Add yellow pigments to your blue budgie all through, and that gives them yellow on the face (which would otherwise be white), and the yellow overlay over the 'blue' sheen of the body makes the body look green. Dark factors darken the shade of your birds (increase melanin/eumelanin)- both green and blue series none = light, one = medium, two = dark skyblue , cobalt , mauve light green , dark green , olive Think of grey and violet as adding overlaying colour on top of each shade. Grey and violet cover blue, and add to green, in each shade. In blue birds if violet is inherited from both parents it will be more intense. And in a grey bird violet adds colour to produce violetgreys in light, medium and dark shades as well. Now, back to our green budgie and from here: If you take away the melanin/eumelanin black pigments, this becomes a yellow bird. If you change the melanin/eumelanin from black to brown it becomes cinnamon. If you change the melanin/eumelanin to grey it becomes a grey wing. If you re-distribute the position of the melanin/eumelanin in various locations you get different patterns like pieds and opalines. If you take the melanin/eumelanin out of the body only you get a clearbody. If you take the melanin/eumelanin out of the wings you get a clearwing. And so on. The genes responsible for budgie colours and patterns affect the production of the colour pigments and their pattern of distribution. Hope this helps you.
April 8, 200817 yr Don't know. I wonder if it is possible for the gene to unlink again and the odd ino hen to come out of that pairing? I have read that the cinnamon gene can convert or mutate back over and act like an normal and therefore you would only have the ino gene but you would have to test the bird to see if this really happened. I have found a couple interesting sites on the lacewing. Edited April 8, 200817 yr by Elly
April 8, 200817 yr Don't know. I wonder if it is possible for the gene to unlink again and the odd ino hen to come out of that pairing? I have read that the cinnamon gene can convert or mutate back over and act like an normal and therefore you would only have the ino gene but you would have to test the bird to see if this really happened. I have found a couple interesting sites on the lacewing. Hi Elly, What are the sites you have found? I just purchased a white lacewing squire and two green lacewing hens to start breeding that variety to find out what makes them tick. I would be interested in any other sites I haven't found yet. Cheers. Edited April 8, 200817 yr by DrNat
April 8, 200817 yr Best of the Breed Lacewing Genetics - this is the one that speaks of the mutation of the cinnamon to act like a normal. Our World - this article I didn't read yet
April 9, 200817 yr wonder what would happen if you had an ino with brownwing...... would you get a 'lacewing' in looks as well? and if so, would this cause the 'normals' issue since brownwing is recessive rather than sex-linked. I'd be interested to find out. I may need to aquire an Albino hen to pair with my brownwing cock next season and see what happens in a few generations.
April 11, 200817 yr wonder what would happen if you had an ino with brownwing...... would you get a 'lacewing' in looks as well? and if so, would this cause the 'normals' issue since brownwing is recessive rather than sex-linked. I'd be interested to find out. I may need to aquire an Albino hen to pair with my brownwing cock next season and see what happens in a few generations. I don't know, try it. Some articles that I have read say that Ino is dominant to lacewing, but not sure about relationship to brownwing, also not sure whether brownwing interacts with ino gene in the same way as cinnamon does to produce lacewing effect. (I don't have any brownwings that I am aware of - perhaps I do if they just look similar to cinnamons). The brownwing is thought to be extinct but obviously not. Someone needs to update wikipedia! I am guessing yes, normals could come out of that type of pairing. Give it a shot, keep good records and send your results to Mutavi parrot research.
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