Hi, this is my english couple....which mutation is their baby??

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2158/coppia2fn2.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8241/coppia3wi5.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1387/cooppia3ob3.jpg

 

and which kind of baby can i have from these two??

dad is violet(real), mom is the grey spangle...

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5412/coppia1ox7.jpg

Edited March 12, 200817 yr by Elly
oversized pictures, should be no more then 450x450 in size

If you would like to resize your pictures to 450x450 then they can be put up as images vs links .

 

As for the babies I am not good with the young'n so I know someone with more experience will come along.

 

As for the dad is violet(real), mom is the grey spangle, it really depends on if they are carrying a single factor or a double factor violet and grey gene. Grey is an added color and a stronger factor then the Violet gene so saying that you may have all grey babies it just depends if the grey bird is a double or single factor. For the Spangle you will have a chance of 50% spangles and 50% normals.

and I cannot have violets ?

first chick looks like a green spangle...

 

 

the 2nd pair..

 

If the grey is single factor you'd get:

 

50% of chicks will be spangle

50% grey factor

50% violet factor

50% dark factor

 

so you'd get these possibilities (not counting any possible hidden factors):

 

grey

sky

cobalt

visual violets (violet cobalt)

violet sky (looks like a vibrant cobalt)

grey violet (like a dark grey)

 

..all those colors in either normal or spangle.

 

OR If the grey is double factor you'd end up with

 

all visual greys (to varying degrees of darkness due to dark factors and violet factors added)... and 50% spangle

If you want more violets you are best to pair with another violet bird because gray is a stronger added factor over the violet factor so you will have gray birds that can carry the violet factor (and that is not always visual). A gray bird is essentially a white based (blue) it has the added gray factor which makes the bird gray instead of blue. I hope that makes sense and if I am wrong I know I will be correct by others who know genetics too .

 

When I work out the genetics on paper these are just % (this is both are single factor grey and violet)

 

25% change of Grey Violets (which the bird is darker gray carrying the violet factor)

25% Normal Grey

25% Normal Violet

25% normal Blue

 

not knowing how many dark factors either bird is carrying the blues and grays can vary in coloration

 

If they are double factor grey as indicated above they will all be Gray and 50% will carry the violet gene OR if the Violet is a double factor they will all carry the Violet gene. I just depends but they will all be grey with different shades depending on the added factor and any dark factors that the birds can carry.

Edited March 12, 200817 yr by Elly
adding

First picture

Blue normal

Double factor spangle = All spangle young

 

Second pair I think Elly has got that covered.