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Had these 2 about a year, plus they were about 6 months when I bought them. I have no clue about genetics! I try to read about them and get mega confused! Any help would be appreciate, thanks!

Edited April 4, 200817 yr by Daz
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better pictures of the front and back of both birds would be very helpful

 

Hen: looks like a skyblue recessive pied

Male: looks like a light green normal (but I can't see the wing patterns)

 

If you mate them you will have all green babies, 100% normals unless the male is split for recessive pied and then you have a 50% change of recessive pied babies.

Elly is right the hen is a Sky Blue Recessive Pied, the cock may be a Green Spangle or a Dilute, but as Elly says there isn’t enough of the wing pattern to be sure.

Your green budgie definitely isnt a "normal" but we do need another photo to work out what it is...either spangle, greywing or clearwing. For ID we need photo of wings and tail.

Your hen to me is a opaline Recessive pied... the cock i'm unsure on... either but like kaz said i'm leaning towards greywing/clearwing

Pretty birds -- (Laughing out loud).. I was thinking Sky blue and that Sublime was a mutation I hadn't heard of (Laughing out loud) when I saw this thread.

Hello there, sorry about the enormous delay! I got some better pics.

 

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This is Sky and Sublime, my Breeders. Unsure on genetics.

 

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Another picture of them

 

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A picture of Sky; the female.

 

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Decent picture of the 2

 

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This is bill; a mis-named female. Unsure as well.

 

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Another picture of Bill.

 

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Tweety, unsure of as well. Not a very good picture.

 

Any more pics needed please feel free to ask; still unsure! thanks alot everyone

Edited April 4, 200817 yr by Elly
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So there are 3 birds in the picture all together???

Bill and Tweety both look like recessive pies.

I see four birds from the pictures:

 

Sublime: Light green clearwing squire

Sky: Skyblue opaline recessive pied hen

Bill: Light green opaline recessive pied hen

Tweety: Dark-eyed clear yellow squire - i think (could be a nestfeather doublefactor spangle green series, either squire or hen, that hasn't got it's blue or brown cere yet, but i think it's fleshy pink feet and orange beak lean me more towards dark-eyed clear)

 

Genetics is complicated.

You need to first learn the basic terminology. High school biology books are good for this, or google genetics terminology.

Then look at pictures of what the basic budgerigar varieties are and find out how they are inherited.

 

Let me know what the outcome of crossing a clearwing and a recessive pied is?

It will be interesting to see what the offspring look like.

 

The clearwing and recessive pied are different varieties, and are both autosomal recessive (inherited in the genes of autosomal chromosomes - as distinct from sex chromosomes), which means that they must have inherited two copies of the recessive gene for their respective varieties, that is, one from each parent to appear looking like that. Their parents may have looked entirely different because a recessive variety can be masked by a more dominant variety and therefore "skip" generations.

What I would like to know, and you are about to discover, is what the outcome of breeding these two recessive varieties together will be, and how the genes for these recessive varieties interact.

 

Interesting, not many people do such experiments with mixing different recessive varieties together, it is relatively uncharted territory, keep good notes.

 

The dark-eyed clear is a composite variety of clearflight pied and recessive pied.

A Clearflight pied paired with a Recessive Pied will produce half of the young as Clearflights and the other half Normals, with all the young split for Recessive Pied. Mating one of the Clearflight split for Recessive Pieds back to a Recessive Pied produces a certain percentage of Dark Eyed Clears. These dark eyed clears are the Recessive Pied form of the Continental Clearflight, or "Clearflighted Recessive Pied".

DrNat, Have you had much experience with the dark eyed clears? I have just pbtained a DEC white Cock from Mort Faddy and trying to start that variety off. I have paired to a Grey split recessive hen and had 7 chicks. 1 grey, 2 skyblue, 1 opaline grey, 1 dark eyed clear white, 2 recessive skyblues. I believe all the normals and opaline should be split recessive.

 

Reading what I can get a hold on is good. Dave Cook's been great helping with the pairing side. But the genetics are not straight forward. I know you like the clearwings but i'm interested if you have had success with the DECs?

Wow. thanks ALOT DrNat. I'm saving your post. I'll definatley keep notes and let you know. If only I can get them to breed Her cere was crusty brown for awhile but the male never really tried anything. She did show nesting activity in the box but only for a couple days. Think it's because I have all 4 of them together?

 

THANKS AGAIN!