Hi, I can't work out their mutation , they look similar, but the first one seem to have black eyes and the second one red eyes. I thought they might be pieds? And I guess they are both females, right?

They are not mine, I'm just helping out

 

Thanks a lot

 

I don't know if the photo shows it, but this one has some mauve/grey on her chest, neck

And this one has some green on her belly

Edited December 5, 200717 yr by Zebra

They are very hard to tell from those photos, the first one looks like some type of Blue Pied, but the colour is so pale it’s hard to tell.

 

 

 

The second one looks like an Albion to me, with some suffusion on its breast. Like you say they both look like females, but it’s not real clear on the first one

The first is hard, as the young one (as it seems in the picture) you can tell about an iris rings. The patch around the next COULD mean a pied or simply some suffusion showing. This could mean the bird is a double factor spangle which will show if an iris ring appears. Or she could be a DEC (dark eye clear) which is a mix of recessive pied and dominant pied.

 

 

red eyes means Ino, and the greenish blue you are seeing is simply from the flash. She looks like an older hen.

okay, thank you

the second one, l can faintly see on her wings some markings. they look like spangle markings.

the second one, l can faintly see on her wings some markings. they look like spangle markings.

are those markings cinnamon ? If so and the red eyes she would be a lacewing with suffusion to body.

Thanks a lot, but I'm affraid I'm not able to transate this mutation to czech . I have no idea what they call it here.

 

But thanks a lot for your help

Lacewing - cinnamon Ino would explain it.

Lacewing - cinnamon Ino would explain it.

 

 

okay, I'll try. Thanks a lot (but some of the translations sound very funny :(Laughing out loud): . For some mutations we use english words, which is easier for me - like opaline)