I tried to look into the Budgerigar Program that Daz linked but none of the downloads on the site worked for me to try the 'trial' version. I was able to locate the Bird Tracker program he formally used for now and am running the trial version to see how I like it before buying them. Does anyone have a link that works to download the trial version of the Buderigar Program 2006?

 

Otherwise, what software do most people use for tracking their breeding programs and what is recomended? I'm not worried about price, so much as something that works well and has everything I'll need for long term breeding organization and record keeping.

 

Also a question for anyone who has used the Bird Tracker program or who knows the more technical genetics names below, I am having trouble understanding some of the genetic descriptions used in the program versus what I've seen them named or descriped normally on the forums here. Can someone help decipher these for me?

 

Blues and yellowfaces?

 

Parblue 2 (b*gf)

Parblue 1 (b*y2)

Creamface [this showed as the result of b*m1 + b*m2]

Blue Mutant 1 (b*m1)

Blue Mutant 2 (b*m2)

 

Autosomal Recessive:

 

Brownwing Australian (br)

Melanistic Blackface (m)

Faded (fd) [there is also a dilute (dil) so I assume this is something else?]

Dun Fallow English (f)

Bronze Fallow German (fb)

 

Dominant:

 

Dark Wing Modifier (DW)

Pied Australian (PA)

Pied Dutch (PD)

 

Whats the difference in these greys?

 

Recessive Grey (rg)

Grey (G)

I use the Budgerigar Program and like it very much. I prefer it to Bird Tracker which I tried earlier. I cant help you decipher the terminology however. The latest version of the Budgerigar Program has some excellent features. I would highly recommend it.

I'd love to try it, but can't find where to get it. The geocities site that I found the download links no longer work. What is the differences between them?

Edited October 31, 200717 yr by Ravengypsy

I'd love to try it, but can't find where to get it. The geocities site that I found the download links no longer work. What is the differences between them?

Best to direct your questions to Daz who knows a bit more. He knows all the ins and outs between these two programs. I just know I prefer The Budgerigar Program for me. I didnt use the other one for long and when I had less birds.

Thanks Kaz, hopefully he'll be able to help

I tried to look into the Budgerigar Program that Daz linked but none of the downloads on the site worked for me to try the 'trial' version. I was able to locate the Bird Tracker program he formally used for now and am running the trial version to see how I like it before buying them. Does anyone have a link that works to download the trial version of the Buderigar Program 2006?

 

Otherwise, what software do most people use for tracking their breeding programs and what is recomended? I'm not worried about price, so much as something that works well and has everything I'll need for long term breeding organization and record keeping.

 

Also a question for anyone who has used the Bird Tracker program or who knows the more technical genetics names below, I am having trouble understanding some of the genetic descriptions used in the program versus what I've seen them named or descriped normally on the forums here. Can someone help decipher these for me?

 

Blues and yellowfaces?

 

Parblue 2 (b*gf)

Parblue 1 (b*y2)

Creamface [this showed as the result of b*m1 + b*m2]

Blue Mutant 1 (b*m1)

Blue Mutant 2 (b*m2)

 

Autosomal Recessive:

 

Brownwing Australian (br)

Melanistic Blackface (m)

Faded (fd) [there is also a dilute (dil) so I assume this is something else?]

Dun Fallow English (f)

Bronze Fallow German (fb)

 

Dominant:

 

Dark Wing Modifier (DW)

Pied Australian (PA)

Pied Dutch (PD)

 

Whats the difference in these greys?

 

Recessive Grey (rg)

Grey (G)

 

Blues and yellowfaces?

 

Parblue 2 (b*gf) Golden Face

Parblue 1 (b*y2) Yellow face Type II

Creamface [this showed as the result of b*m1 + b*m2] Cream face Blue

Blue Mutant 1 (b*m1) Sky Blue

Blue Mutant 2 (b*m2) Yellow face

 

Autosomal Recessive:

 

Brownwing Australian (br) Brownwing

Melanistic Blackface (m) Black Face

Faded (fd) [there is also a dilute (dil) so I assume this is something else?] Fade

Dun Fallow English (f) English Fallow

Bronze Fallow German (fb) German Fallow

 

Dominant:

 

Dark Wing Modifier (DW) this is a genetic alteration

Pied Australian (PA) Australian Dominant Pied

Pied Dutch (PD) Dutch Dominant Pied

 

Whats the difference in these greys?

 

Recessive Grey (rg) Recessive Grey you need two recessives to get a grey in this type

Grey (G) this is a dominant grey gene. For a visual grey you need a Grey SF and Blue Mutant 1.

 

Bird Tracker is based on the book "A guide to Colour Mutations & Genetics in Parrots" by Dr Terry Martin BVSc.

You will need to know a basic idea of genetics which you can down load for that site.

Edited November 1, 200717 yr by Daz

I'll try to find a copy of that and maybe it will help (I haven't found it yet), and I read their genetic walkthrough on the site and although I under stand how they 'work' genetically, I don't know what they look like as I haven't heard of these mutations until now. So here are my questions that should probably be moved to the genitics forum but here they are. Hopefully someone can help clear these up for me.

 

 

1) What is the difference between a golden face and a yellow face visually?

 

2) What is a Creamface look like?

 

3) if Blue Mutant 1 is sky blue, would a cobalt be a b*m1 with SF dark?

 

4) What is the visual/genetic difference in a brownwing vs a cinamon?

 

5) What is a Faded looke like? Never heard of this.

 

6) What is the diffrence between an English and a German Fallow? visually?

 

7) Dark Wing Modifier (DW) this is a genetic alteration - what does this look like and how do you tell if a bird has this?

 

8) What is the difference between Australian and Dutch Dominant Pied? visually?

 

9) When looking at a visually grey budgie, how do you know if it is DF recessive Grey or SF dominant grey + Blue Mutant 1?

The Ken Yorke website , www2.tpg.com.au/users/kyorke , has a variety of software that is available that keeps a stocklist of birds and their young to calculating breeding results . A demonstration CD is available on request via the website , there is a lot on the site so it may take a while to find exactly what you need , you can always email him and he may be able to assist better than I can .

Bubbles.

The Ken Yorke website , www2.tpg.com.au/users/kyorke , has a variety of software that is available that keeps a stocklist of birds and their young to calculating breeding results . A demonstration CD is available on request via the website , there is a lot on the site so it may take a while to find exactly what you need , you can always email him and he may be able to assist better than I can .

Bubbles.

 

I use Kens software.