Daz, The % is over 100 chicks.You will have to breed a 100 chicks,from the

one pair to get the 25%.

One of the bubs with a watchful dad looking on:

 

 

 

Other bub & the foster bub:

 

Here is the result of my Lacewing to Lacewing pairing:

 

 

 

 

 

Where's my lacewing babies?!?!?!?!!!!!

Lacewing is a combo of the lutino and cinammon gene when 2 are paired together the genes can be split apart.

So if I am doing this right you have a chance of 50% lacewing, 25% lutino, 25% cinnamon

 

The result is the 25% lutino I would say if you bred them again you probably would get lacewing BUT I have to say that both my kids have blue eyes and blond hair and neither my husband or I are visual for either one of those genes (Laughing out loud)...so the 25% came out 2x with us

 

I am thinking (not sure) the only way you can have a 100% chance of Lacewing is if you bred a lutino x cinnamon (the male would need to be a visual and have 2 lutino or cinnamon genes) the female automatically expresses the gene with having just 1 lutino or cinammon gene.

Edited November 12, 200717 yr by Elly

I would wait & see if both are females, as I would think that the male is probably split for Lutino. Like others have said, results are always % over large numbers, but in my experience you can get batches of one colour & then when you breed again, not see that colour at all for many batches. I’m not sure it’s just chance, as I have seen batches of one colour & then batches of another, it seems that results can be in clusters. Runs of one colour & then another.

Norm if the pairing is 2 lacewing (as Karen stated) then the male is a lutino and cinammon he wouldn't be split for lutino because he already is? right?

Norm if the pairing is 2 lacewing (as Karen stated) then the male is a lutino and cinammon he wouldn't be split for lutino because he already is? right?

 

I don’t think that question has been answered completely yet Elly…some experts say that it’s a combo of Cinnamon & Lutino, other say it’s separate mutation. I think if it were just a combination, you wouldn’t need to get Lacewings, just breed your Cinnamons & Lutinos together. I have been trying to breed my Lacewing hen to a Cinnamon Green cock, as I don’t have anything else to pair her with, but so far they wont cooperate. I was going to ask you for the site you have been reading about them to see if it’s a different one to the ones I have looked at. I’m still working on the assumption that it’s a Mutation & that it can be also split with Lutino.

So you are saying that the male lacewing was split to lutino (if lacewing is a separate mutation) and the one that she has is a girl? That could support the theory being a separate mutation. But also to disagree with that since there is a 25% chance of lutino and females only need 1 lutino gene to display the gene it is easier to get a female.

 

Karen has a good picture of the cere before the other picture but with the flash it is hard to tell the sex.

 

The question every mutation starts off from a spin off of another mutation (at least I believe so) somewhere. So where would the lacewing mutation come from if it is not a combo? What site do you use?

 

This is what I generally read off Budgie Place Mutations and Colors and along with learning off the genetic guru here on the site.

 

You must make those birds co-operate (Laughing out loud) play some music, budgie courting sounds of other budgies .

Edited November 13, 200717 yr by Elly

They are hearing plenty of music from other birds & I play the radio when I’m working in the bird room, but nothing has worked. Maybe they just don’t like each other…I haven’t ever even seen the hen look at the nest box, in fact I took it away because I needed it the other week & have some wood to build a new one but I’ve been too busy of late.

 

Lacewing is one Mutation where even the experts don't agree, so I guess we haven't got a chance to know what's what...it's suppose to be on the same allele...Cinnamon & Lutino. And I think TCB is on the same allele too.

Just to try and confuse the issue a little: the baby with the white flights and tail is female and the baby with yellow flights and tail is male.

ah so since you DID get a male that "could" confirm that the 2 lacewings (are a combo of lutino and cinammon) because the only way the male could be a lutino is if he got one from the mom and 1 from the dad and we know that the female can't be split she visually has to show any sex-linked gene.

 

Interesting conversation...

ah so since you DID get a male that "could" confirm that the 2 lacewings (are a combo of lutino and cinammon) because the only way the male could be a lutino is if he got one from the mom and 1 from the dad and we know that the female can't be split she visually has to show any sex-linked gene.

 

Interesting conversation...

 

Yes I agree with your assumptions.

- I feel like I am working toward solving the mystery of the lutinos

Edited November 14, 200717 yr by Elly

I'm getting plenty of Lutino hens from my TCB's being split for them, but I'm not getting any progress on my Lacewings, I've still only got the one I bred & one I bought, so far neither have bred.

 

 

 

Karen are you going to let them breed again to see if you get some Lacewings the next batch?

 

The bird I bred my Lacewing from also bred Lutinos, I got three Lutino hens & one Lacewing, but the Lacewing was White…so from that result it seems like it was split for Lacewing & also Lutino. I have mated him up with a Cinnamon hen, to hopefully get some more Lacewings but she hasn’t gone down.

Edited November 15, 200717 yr by Norm

Yes I will, but I don't have a spare breeding cage at the moment - I had to compromise, when I got my double suspended aviary I had to promise to get rid of 2 of my breeding cages so theirs was one of them.