Posted September 27, 200717 yr I just wanted to fins out what my two boys are. I'll give you my ideas then you tell me what you think. Here is my first little guy: I believe he is a yellow face type 2, either a dilute or graywing because of his body color, clearwing? My second little guy: I believe is a golden face dominant pied spangle? graywing http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...926bubs0010.jpg Thanks 1 photo was oversized. Please keep all photos under 450 X 450. Thank you, Feathers. Edited October 7, 200717 yr by Feathers
September 27, 200717 yr can't tell you about genetics but can say that they are both gorgeous.Love the first one and the softness it has to its colours.
September 27, 200717 yr First one looks like a violet double factor dominant pied the second one you said is a yellow face because of the blue or he could be an olive bue he also looks like a dominant pied but from the front he looks recessive (Laughing out loud).
September 29, 200717 yr second one is not spangle. But your first one is.. the first one doesn't look like a spangle to me.
September 29, 200717 yr The markings around the head are strong enough to be a normal. So I will say spangle and being pied the piedness is masking the spangle.. Misty does your pied have markings on the under side of his tail like this?
September 29, 200717 yr I can't tell with the lines around the eye if they are a grey colour or black, Could you let us know Misty? I would guess violet yellowface recessive pied, we would have to wait for iris rings or change of cere colour to be sure tho. I don't see ANY markings on the wings to tell spangle and the tail will be all white due to the pied gene. The second: dutch dominant pied cinnamon, either a dark green or olive.
September 30, 200717 yr The markings around the head aren't strong enough to be a normal. So I will say spangle and being pied the piedness is masking the spangle.. Misty does your pied have markings on the under side of his tail like this? Sorry because there is no edit button on this post I change are to aren't. Nerwen there still might be spangle markings on the under side of his tail. Misty can you look please? Edited September 30, 200717 yr by Lady
September 30, 200717 yr The bars on the first budgie are light enough for cinnamon to be a consideration> I see no signs of spangle.
October 1, 200717 yr Cinnamon or one of the dilute genes are possible. Misty can you let us know the colours of the bars please.
October 1, 200717 yr Author I'm at school right now but I'll check for ya when I get home. I'll also get some better pictures of the both of them. Here is the origional tail shot I have of the green one, its blurry but like I said I'll get more tonight or atleast tomarrow morning. And, no on the names but we're working on it. ~Misty Edited October 1, 200717 yr by Misty
October 5, 200717 yr Here are some new pics of the boys: Misty thinks he's a dilute caus his bars are so faint. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0005.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0008.jpg Here's some pics of our "green" boy his bars do look gray to me http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0009.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0019.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0021.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0011.jpg Some photos changed to links as they exceed the forum's maximum size of 450 x 450. Feathers. Edited October 7, 200717 yr by Feathers
October 7, 200717 yr dilute can fit with the blue pied. The 'green' is a bit harder, the yellow is very strong for a yellowface/goldenface at this age. The fact you can see blue doesn't always mean yellowface as blue is part of a normal greens. Olives can show some blue in certain lights and with flash.
October 7, 200717 yr Author What about the wing color on the green one, would you say graywing? Edited October 7, 200717 yr by Misty
October 7, 200717 yr Hi Misty, the 'green' one is a cinnamonwing. Kaz pointed it out earlier. They can appear to be grey, but you will find that it is actually brown. It is an easy and very common mistake to make, I've done it myself. Feathers.
October 7, 200717 yr Your birds are both difficult, as I think they have quite a few different mutations in them. My guess of the first one is Yellow Faced 2 Blue [Cobalt] Dominate or Recessive Pied [if it doesn’t get an iris ring later you will know for sure Recessive] & I would guess Clearwing as there is something affecting it more than just Pied. The second one, Golden face or Yellow Face 2, Blue [Cobalt or Violet] Cinnamon Spangle.
October 8, 200717 yr The second one, Golden face or Yellow Face 2, Blue [Cobalt or Violet] Cinnamon Spangle.The markings on the lower section of wings indicate that this bird is NOT a spangle as the cinnamon markings are not on the edge of the feathers but the reverse. The spangle type markings on upper wing area show like that when opaline is involved. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/KSG_...004bubs0011.jpg Edited October 8, 200717 yr by KAZ
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