Hi everyone I'm new and joined to ask some questions.

 

I had a Yellow faced (series 2 I think from what I've just recently read) blue recessive pied and would like to breed a replacement.

 

I currently have a year old white faced grey recessive pied hen, a 6 month white faced blue recessive pied cock and a 3 month old yellow faced grey recessive pied split.

 

If unable to find a yellow faced series 2 blue recessive pied to add into the breeding program, what colour should I get? and which one should I breed it to?

 

eg.

a) get a yellow faced green series 2 recessive pied hen and breed it to the white faced blue recessive pied cock I have.

 

or

 

b)wait for the young yellow faced grey recessive pied split cock to mature and breed it with the white faced grey recessive pied hen and hope they throw a yellow face blue recessive pied hen and then breed it to the white faced blue recessive pied cock.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

if you breed a white faced grey to a yellow faced grey your still going to get grey offspring... you'll get some yellowfaces... but not of the blue kind your after if both parents are grey... to my knowledge anyway.... unless your greys happen to be mauves by mistake?

Edited September 22, 200717 yr by *libby*

Hi and welcome Harlequinlover,

 

Yellowface is a great colour in budgies. It is a blue gene that only block some of the yellow from the feathers rather than the normal blue gene that block all.

 

a) get a yellow faced green series 2 recessive pied hen and breed it to the white faced blue recessive pied cock I have.

I'm not sure what you asking with yellow faced green series 2 but if you mean a normal green recessive pied then this pairing will not give you what you want. Green is dominant and a yellowface is not created with matching a green to a blue.

 

b)wait for the young yellow faced grey recessive pied split cock to mature and breed it with the white faced grey recessive pied hen and hope they throw a yellow face blue recessive pied hen and then breed it to the white faced blue recessive pied cock.

What is the yellowface grey split too?

You could get a yellowface blue from this pair if both are single factor greys. You woulds get more greys than blues and there is a chance of double factor greys. This could get the grey gene running wild in your flock becuase double factor greys will only have grey offsprings. But if your not worried then yes this pair could give you a Yellowface blue.

You will have a 12.5% chance of breeding a Y/F recessive pie.

By breeding your Y/F split rec pie to the grey recessive pie.

There will also be 12.5% split rec pie in the nest.

But you will have to wait till next year before you can

breed your 3 month old yellow face. As he is to young at

the moment to breed.

Do you have a breeding cage & nest box to put,the hen & cock

in for breeding.If not it might be just as easy to buy a Y/F Recessive Pie

& save you the hassle. :feedbirds:

Hi,

 

okay the yellow faced grey split recessive pied (one parent was a yellow faced blue and the other was a white faced grey unsure which was the recessive pied) and yes he will be waiting until he is older to breed. So I say has a 50% chance of passing the grey on and 50% chance of Blue (and 50% of each will have a yellow face). I also gather if bred to the grey recessive pied hen will have 50% recessive pieds and 50% splits.

 

The white faced, blue recessive pied from memory had one green parent and since green is dominant over the blue this green shouldn't be in the equation with his breeding (he also is more an aqua kinda colour so I have been told shouldn't have the dark factor) and if bred to the white faced grey recessive pied hen will give me 100% recessive pieds (I assume all with white faces) but depending upon if the Hen is a single or double factor grey wil deterine if progeny are grey and blue or just grey. So from this won't get a yellow faced but could get white faced blue recessive pieds hens to breed to the yellow faced grey split recessive pied when he is older so I then get yellow faced blues amongst the babies.

 

The White faced grey recessive hen I don't know the colour of her parents so could be either a single or double grey but I was told she is a blue series.

 

By the yellow faced greens I was thinking of the yellow recessive pieds I often see (I gathered they were yellow faced greens as the yellow is really rich and the colour to me looked a green shade).

 

I hope this info helps.

 

Here are their pics

 

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

Edited September 23, 200717 yr by harlequinlover

sounds like you have a great grip on the genetics of budgies already. All your working out with percentages and such is correct.

 

By the yellow faced greens I was thinking of the yellow recessive pieds I often see (I gathered they were yellow faced greens as the yellow is really rich and the colour to me looked a green shade).

 

okay this does now sound like your are talking about green series recessive pied birds. These are simply classed green recessive pied. No need to said yellow face or not since all green birds have a yellowface. Green can carry a yellowface gene same as they can carry the blue gene.

 

This is my green recessive pied male (Poka)

sounds like you have a great grip on the genetics of budgies already. All your working out with percentages and such is correct.

 

By the yellow faced greens I was thinking of the yellow recessive pieds I often see (I gathered they were yellow faced greens as the yellow is really rich and the colour to me looked a green shade).

 

okay this does now sound like your are talking about green series recessive pied birds. These are simply classed green recessive pied. No need to said yellow face or not since all green birds have a yellowface. Green can carry a yellowface gene same as they can carry the blue gene.

 

This is my green recessive pied male (Poka)

 

Nerwen,

 

Thanks about the genetics.

 

Yes that's the one so would it be quicker to add one of them to the mix as I hear finding a yellow faced blue recessive is not that easy (mentioned I was looking for a male to replace the one I no longer have (was the grey recessive pieds mate) to a breeder and was told good luck).

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

Edited September 23, 200717 yr by harlequinlover

Thanks for your help everyone,

 

After re-reading the above I am probably best atm (if I can't locate a reasonable quality yellow faced blue recessive pied of either gender) to breed the blue recessive pied to the grey recessive pied to try and get blue recessive pied hens to breed to the yellow faced blue split recessive pied later on as the green series recessive pieds may not have the yellow faced gene.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

It would be the reasonable quality that would be hard to find. I see a lot of YF recessive pieds in the pet shops.

It would be the reasonable quality that would be hard to find. I see a lot of YF recessive pieds in the pet shops.

 

okay,

 

So any breeders of quality yellow faced blue recessive pieds near Newcastle?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Harlequinlover

Edited September 27, 200717 yr by KAZ
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