okay but what's plum eyes coz he still has the iris:S??? i'll get a close up picture today without flash for ya's:) only 17 days to wait til egss hatch haha way too much guessing time for me:P

hey here's a picture of him in natural light without flash... can clearly see the iris.

hey here's a picture of him in natural light without flash... can clearly see the iris.

 

Great clear photo. I saved it and zoomed in. Black eye with iris ring. Not albino. Definitely NOT DF Spangle. So DEC I guess

Edited August 9, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

But they are not supposed to have iris rings Kaz or can they?

I think it will be interesting to see what the babies outcomes are because genetics is having some fun fooling us here.

The australian BLACK EYED SELF similar to a dark eyed clear has iris rings.

Could it be that, I was thinking about that variation and thought maybe?

Description of a Dark Eyed Clear

 

 

General body colour of back, rump, breast, flanks and underparts to be a solid and even shade throughout.

 

 

MARKINGS: To be absent from all areas

 

 

EYES: Dark with the absense of a white iris ring.

 

 

YELLOW (Buttercup): White cheek patches and a tail feather approachig body colour

 

WHITE: White cheekpatches and tail feathers that are white.

 

(quote from feathers)

 

so doesnt that make him df spangle:S?

so doesnt that make him df spangle:S?

If he was a double factor spangle his cere would be blueThis IS a DF SPangle

 

 

black eyes selfs http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....c=15223&hl=

Edited August 9, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

okay... so black eyed self:S nfi what exactly that is what will the offspring be if he's that?"From this description, compared with that of the BES, you can see that the BES has an iris ring, but the DEC doesn't. Also the BES has faint body markings, but the DEC should have no markings at all."(another quote from feathers)he has no body markings yet has an iris ring... if he was a BES doesnt that mean he'd have some form of body marking?

Black eyes selfs are a rare variety. I dont know enough about them so you will have to do some research. By process of elimination, he cant be anything else.

isnt df spangle still an option:S? because it hasnt being ruled out?

If it is a black eye.

The offspring will be 75% blue clear flight pied.

25% blue.

 

Full list, there is 8 combinations.

thankyou macka:) you're way too good at this stuff:P

isnt df spangle still an option:S? because it hasnt being ruled out?

Your bird is NOT a double factor spangle...he has no blue cere.

 

 

Edited August 9, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

The offspring will really help to pin point his type. I have heard of some DEC's getting rings in the eye. From what I know BEC's should have some faint markings still.

Black Eyed Self

 

Eyes: Dark with a white Iris Ring.

 

(Australian National Standard - Page 25 & 26)

Edited August 9, 200718 yr by Daz

According to the description of the BEC it can't be it Description of Different Mutations this is from our FAQ and Aly had posted this back a few months ago.

 

I think the best thing you can do is wait for the offspring and work out the genetic .